Failed Expeditions (Map Experiment Graveyard)

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   The names of the discovery usually reflect the EFFECTS of the discoveries, rather than what is required to discover them.  For example, Famine Management gives extra food in the capital, Inquisitive Populace expands your diplo visibility (by making your citizens more alert), Block and Tackle increases the speed of caravan loading.
It seems likely that the Amassing the Horde discovery would have the result of allowing one to increase troop production or support more troops by decreasing upkeep or whatever.  How the discovery is made is not necessarily directly associated with the name of the discovery.

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Rill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903	Posted: 22 Apr 2013 at 04:00
	The names of the discovery usually reflect the EFFECTS of the discoveries, rather than what is required to discover them. For example, Famine Management gives extra food in the capital, Inquisitive Populace expands your diplo visibility (by making your citizens more alert), Block and Tackle increases the speed of caravan loading. It seems likely that the Amassing the Horde discovery would have the result of allowing one to increase troop production or support more troops by decreasing upkeep or whatever. How the discovery is made is not necessarily directly associated with the name of the discovery.

Malek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 09 Jul 2012 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 247	Posted: 22 Apr 2013 at 04:40
	I see your point there rill, either way you have to actually do something in order to obtain these discoveries. Normally it is through questing, the ones you mentioned, a lot of people have obtained yet this one and others are proving elusive. If hard core questing is not the solution, creating massive armies or high production rates is not either. What other means are available to obtain these discoveries. Either that or they are not active. Could a dev answer if they are active so that i can keep searching for a solution to this and the others. I really want that one just to see what it can do for my towns. Is it for orcs only would be another thing to find out as well.

Brandmeister Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Location: Laoshin Status: Offline Points: 2396	Posted: 22 Apr 2013 at 04:46
	Rill, you make a well considered point. Some of the discoveries do reflect the activities that cause them. For example, Gnome Brew comes from the Steamtastic Brewery quest. I had wondered if the Dwarven Fortifications discovery might be related to Duraz Karag, or perhaps the new Broken Lands faction of super-suspicious dwarves.

dspn23 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 213	Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 17:30
	i'm ALMOST certain devs have sayd quite some times all mysteries are discoverable.

dspn23 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 213	Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 17:45
	tenaril wizard? tenaril's faction http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Alliance/Faction/47 surounded canyon all over but East. where the famous tenaril lives. who's name is given to 2 spells: "tenaril's pungent" and "Tenaril's Spell of Teleportation" coincidence that there are also 2 discoveries with his name: http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/619823755/illyriad_discoveries_tenarils_wards_poster.jpg?height=225&width=225&padToSquare=true http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/619823754/illyriad_discoveries_tenarils_torment_poster.jpg?height=225&width=225&padToSquare=true this are the 2 pictures above. unfortunatly i don't know how to place them here corectly... one of which called "tenaril's torment" that curiously can be associated to a blight (the same way tenaril's wards can be associated to tenaril's faction protected by casting a canyon all over) my guess was: can i cast a so destructive blight that will be a "torment" to the other player? yes i can. i give my alt 100k swords and cast the blight on that city causing a 10k swords loss unfortunatly those swords didn't turn to be a good investment... Edited by dspn23 - 28 Apr 2013 at 17:50

Epidemic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 03 Nov 2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 768	Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 20:29
	I've been told, by a dev, that not all of the discoveries in the Illyriad store are discoverable. They would not give any other info on which are/aren't discoverable. The 3rd crafting discovery is definitely out there waiting to be discovered, according to the devs.

Brandmeister Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Location: Laoshin Status: Offline Points: 2396	Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 21:14
	It's not too surprising that not all of those discoveries are live.

dspn23 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 213	Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 22:25
	i am surprised all of them should only be released if could be solved. imagine how would i feel knowing that the only reason i didn't get that discovery was simply because it wasn't live? and now i'll have to spend another 10k swords. and still that's not the worst. I mean, will any of u try to blight himself knowing i did and got nothing? if that was the way to discover it nobody would ever get it unless didn't look at other people's failures and ended up kiling another 10k swords because he didn't knew it had been tryed before

Rill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903	Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 05:02
	I blighted myself twice in the same day strictly for educational purposes. I'm not doing it again though. Nope, no matter how much the newbs ask to see it.

Brandmeister Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Location: Laoshin Status: Offline Points: 2396	Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 06:52
	I once cast 100 simultaneous geomancy spells in the newb ring, just to see if that unlocked anything. It didn't, of course.