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Nalleen
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Topic: Ex TVM member Posted: 28 Nov 2013 at 01:39 |
ES2 wrote:
Then why is it that Yorik (formerly a member of Trivium) is being sieged for leaving it? He stated that he has no idea why he is(or was if the sieges were cleared off of him) being attacked. |
Yorik is not in TVM by his own request. Any of Yorik's towns sieged were by his consent and his express purpose for departing from TVM. I know this as I removed him when he asked me to. The sieges were arranged. If Yorik is being sieged by someone other than his friend in TVM, I know not of it.
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Darkwords
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Posted: 28 Nov 2013 at 00:13 |
Myr wrote:
I am posting this for Abraxox
I stay because it is not in me to withdraw, and I know that sounds like a rip off from a really funny movie [and it is!] 
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Sounds more like a risque movie to me....  Jokes aside, a very good post +1
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ES2
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 23:47 |
Myr
It has been said here that the [TVM wrote:
leadership does not listen to it's members, it does not support it's members, it throws it's members into harms way to be 'cannon fodder' and does not or will not offer them the support when it is needed. It has also been suggested that we, the members of [TVM] have not been allowed to individually withdraw from the war. All members of [TVM] have been offered the chance to withdraw from the war by our leadership. I can provide the evidence by igm to any that wish it, however I also claim the right to edit it as it includes others that have offered sanctuary and I will not see them tarnished, suffer verbal attack nor demeaned in any way for their generosity. Regardless of peoples assumptions and best guesswork, we have been offered by our Leader the chance to withdraw with NO recriminations. \ |
Then why is it that Yorik (formerly a member of Trivium) is being sieged for leaving it? He stated that he has no idea why he is(or was if the sieges were cleared off of him) being attacked.
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Myr
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Joined: 26 May 2011
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 23:40 |
I am posting this for Abraxox since he is on a device that allows him to read the forums but not respond.
Greetings. I am posting here to address a couple of issues. It makes me somewhat sad to read many poorly directed personal attacks on individuals throughout this current war. Many of the posters have nothing positive to add but would seem rather to post for the sake of seeing their own words in print and take an even greater delight in the mayhem that follows. Truly sad imho. Many that post here, do so more to play the semantic role rather than actually take the time to digest what they then choose to criticise so quickly. I urge you all to step back for minute and truly read what others have posted before reaching for the all too familiar rhetoric. Calm, considered and informed rebuttals are worth far more than the excited, hormone and adrenalin charged, misinterpreted reposte that has become the norm. Have a care with your words folks and the spirit with which those words are written. Much has been said regarding McKenna's withdrawal from [TVM] and the war. I personally think it was a courageous decision and one that surely tortured McKenna when making. I hold no animosity toward McKenna for his decision and I truly wish him health, wealth and prosperity in his future. I also truly hope that those to whom he offered his withdrawal upheld what has been written and allowed him to keep his dignity and honour and that whatever terms he was offered were within keeping of what they espouse. It has been said here that the [TVM] leadership does not listen to it's members, it does not support it's members, it throws it's members into harms way to be 'cannon fodder' and does not or will not offer them the support when it is needed. It has also been suggested that we, the members of [TVM] have not been allowed to individually withdraw from the war. All members of [TVM] have been offered the chance to withdraw from the war by our leadership. I can provide the evidence by igm to any that wish it, however I also claim the right to edit it as it includes others that have offered sanctuary and I will not see them tarnished, suffer verbal attack nor demeaned in any way for their generosity. Regardless of peoples assumptions and best guesswork, we have been offered by our Leader the chance to withdraw with NO recriminations. Those of us that stay, choose so freely, with full understanding of the consequences. I stay because it is not in me to withdraw, and I know that sounds like a rip off from a really funny movie [and it is!] but I state it here publicly. I stay because of my friendship with those amongst [TVM] McKenna included. I stay because I have never, nor will ever, desert a comrade on the battlefield. My friendships mean far more to me than my city's. It may come to pass that I be forced back to the 'rainbow'. So be it. I will never surrender until my liege lays down his sword. If it come to chance that [TVM]'s banner is hung in our would-be conqueror's halls then know that it does so because they had to prise it from my cold corpse's mailed fist. I shall try my utmost to survive. "When cities burn and armies turn and flee in disarray, Cowards will cry 'Tis best to fly and fight another day!' But True warriors know it in their marrow that when they fight and fall, it is better to have fought and lost than to have never fought at all." Anonymous. 
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Daefis
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 20:22 |
scaramouche wrote:
The Electrocutioner wrote:
Vanerin wrote:
I seem to recall H? talking about how the pride of Consone leadership was causing the destruction of their members. Would this be a case of hypocrisy or are there pertinent details I am not aware of? |
That is precisely my point. Those who denounce H? are now practicing the thing they most criticized them for. It is indeed a case of hypocrisy. | I think maybe you are now experiencing precisely what a lot of us ex Consone players had to contend with during the last war...and it doesn't leave a good taste, does it? |
Scaramouche +1 sadly.... Exactly no-one likes being on the wrong end of it.
Edited by Daefis - 27 Nov 2013 at 22:13
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scaramouche
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 20:04 |
The Electrocutioner wrote:
Vanerin wrote:
I seem to recall H? talking about how the pride of Consone leadership was causing the destruction of their members. Would this be a case of hypocrisy or are there pertinent details I am not aware of? |
That is precisely my point. Those who denounce H? are now practicing the thing they most criticized them for. It is indeed a case of hypocrisy. | I think maybe you are now experiencing precisely what a lot of us ex Consone players had to contend with during the last war...and it doesn't leave a good taste, does it?
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NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Spheniscidae
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 13:13 |
Darkwords wrote:
Hypocrisy always starts with H.
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HAHA! Best post here (:
+1
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Darkwords
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 11:27 |
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Lol... you really haven't a clue have you?
We are not the ones criticizing/judging anyone, it is your side doing that and you keep doing it on the forums and GC. If you read my post I did not even refer to you personally, I said 'those who follow H'.
And there are plenty of them crying here and on GC. Also when did you here vCrow saying that what H did to Consone regarding conditions of surrender was unfair? It is merely your group that are saying this now that you are facing the same ultimatums.
Hypocrisy always starts with H.
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The Electrocutioner
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 11:16 |
Darkwords wrote:
Yet those who follow H are crying because they are receiving the treatment that H denotes as fair.
So how are you any better than those you criticize?
If people go around trying to force others to 'play their way', then they should not complain when those others do 'play that way' in retaliation.
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I'm not crying, I'm not saying they are "wrong", and I don't think I'm any better than them. What I am saying is this:
You guys are hypocrites. You are doing the things you say are wrong with others do them.
Judge Night Crusaders all you want. In the end, you are trying to be just like us. You will do what we do when you feel as righteous about your cause as we do. And you will be just as proud of it as we are.
And more power to you, if that's the way you want to be! Just quit pretending to have some kind of moral high ground over those whose strategies and behaviors you seek to imitate.
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Darkwords
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Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 11:04 |
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Yet those who follow H are crying because they are receiving the treatment that H denotes as fair.
So how are you any better than those you criticize?
If people go around trying to force others to 'play their way', then they should not complain when those others do 'play that way' in retaliation.
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