ETERNAL CHAMPIONS

Some interesting responses there, well meant I imagine.  However they are inaccurate particularly your first post Lionz Heartz.  I don't post too often here, but as I generally respect the views of yourself and Waylander when I do read the forum, I thought it necessary to make an exception.

Firstly, although it isn't very clear from Noki's well written first post, all of those events took place well over 6 months ago - I have been with DB since September of last year and until now had never even heard of Champs.  The latter events, namely the attacks on Aberdon and other smaller alliance members, started without warning around 5 or 6 weeks ago - almost exactly a week oddly enough after the conclusion of a NAP agreement with Crows and Calcr in particular.

Second, there is no doubt whatsoever that Champs are being supported by Calcr members, those support troops also being used to break the seige, hence it's failure - I have scout reports to prove that.  So this is not DB 'picking on the little guy' - the 'little guy' in this case picked the fight (I don't think that something which happened 7 or more months ago is a valid excuse to start a war do you?).  Additionally, prior to attacking, Champs had made sure that all was in place so when we responded we would be surprised and unlikely to succeed.

Why can we not win as Noki says?  Simple really, our hands have been tied.  Contrary to popular belief, DB does not break its word, so when an NAP or any other agreement is made, we will not be the ones who break it.  We know that the main support is from Calcr, but we cannot take any action without breaking our given word.  A pity others do not view agreements in the same light, but that is the way of things I guess.  Calcr has not technically broken the NAP, although I wouldn't like to argue that in a court of law, and I think are hoping that we will be seen to break the NAP thus confirming the continued view that the community has of DB.  We are consistantly seen as the 'bad guys' as far as I can tell, so who would be surprised if we were seen to break a NAP agreement?  I believe that we are actually facing at least 3 different alliances, possibly more hence the need for assistance - if these alliances will attack without provocation then it is only a matter of time before they do the same to someone else.

Last of all, in response to your charge of warmongering and hypocrisy, this is a false illusion that I have noticed seems to be associated with DB.  I cannot argue that we don't enjoy a fight, Illyriad is also a war game after all.  I cannot also comment on what went on many months ago before I joined DB - I wasn't there, so I do not have the details to comment either way.

What I can say with some certainty is that since I joined DB, there has been no war that was not actually started first by another alliance, from my time with them this has been TMM (now gone I think) and Calaquendi who half way through the war, merged into Crows.

This recent war was started without warning when attacks were suddenly sent by members of Champs.  Naturally we responded and it was during this I found that support had been provided by Calacr.  Latterly Love World Order (LWO) also started to send attacks, again with no provocation or warning.

Given this, I hope you can see that DB is not in fact a 'warmongering' alliance, nor is it guilty of hypocrisy - it has simply responded to attacks as I imagine any other alliance on Illyriad would.  I think I have made up for several months of non-posting with this post, so I'll finish for now and leave you to make up your own minds now that you have the truth of the matter.