ETERNAL CHAMPIONS

Amroth wrote: just now, aberdon has landed a siege. aberdon 30,000+ sieging town of 1500. his army almost 3x pop of town. This is the blights idea of honor. We shall meet his army at our gates. But since evil matter of perception, we'll just throw the gates open and invite them in for tea. Evil is evil. Blight is evil. You are silly and foolish in the extreme. Where do you live? disneyland? lets take a ride to the magic kingdom goofy, where evil is perception, lololo. we would have hoped the crow more discriminating in their membership qualifications. Your intelligence does elude me sir. I have no more time for this dribble. I have a siege to ruin. Obviously logic is wasted on you. We wish you whatever fortune your honor does allow. We will not respond to your posts again. Good day

I find it interesting that you're insulting my intelligence and yet you struggle to answer my questions, which I think are fairly simple. Why have you not offered a NAP with DB? When, before this war, did DB attack your members? Why do you keep speaking of evil and yet you can't describe the actual evil actions? They're fairly simple questions that you avoid in PM and in the forums.

You spoke of the forums becoming a pissing contest, well you're the one making it that. Just because we don't agree with each other does not mean we need to insult each other. People don't agree with each other all the time, be it on forums or in real life. If you're going to handle that the way you're handling it now, you're going to have a hard time in life. For someone who speaks of honor you certainly don't seem to be showing much.

Amroth wrote: We do see how the vultures of illyriad do gather. They do seem skilled at the ability to pick apart any statement made and twist it to their own ends. We do freely acknowledge my statements rather tedious.  Amroth

We have had some nice, long posts here, so what is one more!

Nokigon wrote: I will be honest, they have offered us to negotiate peace

Of course, the problem is how can Champ offer peace after all the rhetoric.  Who will "fight for all those who have suffered at the hands of the Blight"?  After all the talk of "Evil is evil, and must be countered with good at every turn" and "were we to bend the knee to them for the sake of 'surviving' The Ghosts of thousands of our unjustly slain Champions would rise form their graves to cry out 'duty, honor, justice'" how can Champ back off of their stance that DB must be destroyed or even fought.  We have seen some mention in PM's at this being "Propaganda thrown at an 'enemy at the gate'", but given the nature of the discourse since then, is that really the case?  After all, according to Champ, every other Alliance is responsible for DB gaining power and if Champ offers peace, after all the many statements concerning honor, are they any better for letting evil exist when they had the chance to destroy it?  It would seem, to me at least, that Champ has painted themselves into a corner. 
(Disclaimer:  These statements are not meant to discourage anyone from seeking peace.  Peace is totally rad!)

Of course, this is why I left Champ.  I disagree with their stance and I have taken digs at my honor and character because of it, as have many of you.  I was clear with my questions about the fight and clear with my reasons for leaving.  When I was told that the purpose would be DB's destruction, whether or not this is for propaganda or motivating troops, I knew that it was time to leave.  I did not join an Alliance to destroy another one for past transgressions.

I do not have any problems with bad blood being pounded out and once that is done peace is struck.  I do not dispute that Champ has a real beef with DB.  However, let's call it what it is; a grudge, and a big grudge at that.  I feel that most of us do not believe that DB is on the same level as, say, TMM.  That is, worthy of total destruction.  I have said before that if Champ had come out and said "you have wronged us in the past, we are stronger now and we will now challenge you to combat to settle this bad blood" I would still be there.

Champ says if we were in their position we would feel the same way, yet we have had no evidence that would persuade us otherwise.  So, it seems, we are back again to this:

Brids17 wrote: You keep talking about all this evil and yet you can't seem to actually tell me what DB have done. They attacked your members? Ok, when? How many attacks? What types? How many cities have they destroyed?

We have much evil that DB is accused of here, yet no other victims have stated anything.  At 14 pages now we have no one claiming they were bullied or raided repeatedly by DB.  Anyway, that all being said, it is between Champ and DB, so have a good fight.

- On a personal side note, after my siege on XcerebusX was broken, I would have counted not being attacked and seiged a kindness.  So when I discovered a caravan carrying 1000 armor and 500 horses from the very city I was sieging, I was quite surprised.  We complimented each other on the battles and looked forward to more.  I was shown through actions honor by XcerebusX.  After that happens you really don't care to see everyone destroyed. 

can crow be paulie instead?  

Amroth wrote: I do agree with Chellyndrial, Jerec. You are a Judas. Whatever respect we formerly had for you as a warrior and loyal companion are distant memory. Amroth was noble in all his dealings with you. You were bought off for some armor and a hand job, Pig. You could ask Chellyndrial her story of the blight visits. Amroth protects her from you buzzards, respects 'lawyers'  It is bad enough to have been done wrong by brutes who respect nothing but force. to now have to justify being a victim of thugs to a pack of hyenas, I for one find intolerable. Amroth warned me not to say anything it will only be twisted and scoffed at. Well scoff at this. I have read virtually every post on this thread and for the most part I find this lot, pathetic vermin. Especially the 'lawyer' who doesn't even have a character in game. 'Suspended' from a lawyer this does not surprise us.  ^&%(*@hotmail.co*^* you twit. You bring to Illyriad a foul odor. The next time you're feeling smug, remember, it's better to remain silent and let all think you a fool, then to open your mouth, and remove all doubt. Indeed from what we have seen very little to distinguish 'blight' from any who posted on this thread. I find it useless to ponder further on your shortfalls, We are Champions no matter where, no matter when. Blight is scum. The rest of you are worms, we do formally bid that you should have a nice day. Please don't bother to respond, this is my unique posting. I will not be back to read further. If any are offended past tolerance, we do bid them visit us at the WarForge. We can speak further across the battle lines. What was it Amroth said, Riddance to rubbish. ;)     Thingello Anguireal

Ronnie (CHAMP), Sammie (Blight) is not good for you anymore. Just take a step back and look at the way Sammie is treating you. I do know Mike The Situation tends to be annoying and starts stuff out of no where, but this time he did right. There are many ladies that would be willing to date you Ronnie. Let me tell you about some ladies that would do you right, they are Invictus (Jwoww) and Tranquil Vision (Snookie). But be careful about Snookie, Curse (Vinnie) has a thing for her. Just get out bro and do stuff, get over Sammie, she is not good enough for you anymore.

Edited by Lionz Heartz - 12 Mar 2011 at 01:58