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GM Luna 
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Community Manager
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
Location: Illyriad
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 Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 00:35 |
 Albatross wrote:
Forgive my lack of knowledge here, but there's a "refer a new player for 50 prestige points" scheme.
Did the social media links for this promotion include the necessary data to qualify new leads for that scheme? It would be a shame if not, and I would encourage future promotions to do this, to provide genuine benefit to existing players.
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This contest and the buddy programme aren't connected, no. But there is nothing stopping anyone from using Twitter/Facebook/etc. to try to get people to sign up using their referral code. It's really an entirely separate thing and really up to the individual what they want to do with relation to that.
Luna
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GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk 
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Albatross
Postmaster General
Joined: 11 May 2011
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 00:25 |
Forgive my lack of knowledge here, but there's a "refer a new player for 50 prestige points" scheme.
Did the social media links for this promotion include the necessary data to qualify new leads for that scheme? It would be a shame if not, and I would encourage future promotions to do this, to provide genuine benefit to existing players.
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Subatoi
Forum Warrior
Joined: 01 Mar 2012
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Points: 380
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 23:46 |
Why are we complaining about this? Now I feel left out..
Are we mad about illy going mainstream? should i be mad? I don't know.. what gets me to play illy is the fun little in game politics, so stressful but so fun....
i dont think youd stip playing if they went on more paths of mainstreamdom hmm? just complaining? i dont know.. maybe you'll boycott the game or something..could work.. all i know is the community irks me but keeps politics interesting so i stay.
AS Iofilip once said ""
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White Beard
Greenhorn
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
Location: AUS
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Points: 53
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 23:34 |
Why
give away items that players have earned the hard way by winning tourneys? It
cheapens the prize that those players received thru their playing
skills.
Players did receive the tourney troops, just because they changed
alliances right after the last tourney was over. It seems to go a lot against
the high standards I thought this game had.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Points: 6903
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 23:18 |
I respect what Luna is saying, but I agree with Brids. In addition, campaigns of this kind can be used to artificially "bump" a company or product in various search sites. The problem is, everyone does it, so the information provided by those sites becomes less valuable. I was a bit disappointed to see Illy joining in the crowd on that one.
In terms of adding value, it seems like this was frankly designed to add value for Illy more than it was to add value for the players. Which is fine, I'm good with you guys making money. However, it seems like it falls a bit short of the normally extraordinarily highly ethical manner with which Illy treats its playerbase. Not deceptive or underhanded necessarily, but intended more for the benefit of the company than the players, the vast majority of whom will derive no benefit at all from this exercise.
Edited to add: I actually believe that the players benefit when the devs make money, since this allows them to add more features we like, and I do trust the devs to do good things with money they make. I'm just not sure this is an "end justifies the means" situation. But it's not a big deal.
Edited by Rill - 27 Mar 2012 at 23:20
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GM Luna
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 18:58 |
I totally understand and respect that some people do not use social media at all and if they do it is their choice to use it how they see fit.
That is why the contest purposefully has an option to enter without connecting to any social media or posting to any social media. You can enter by simply giving us your character name and email.
The option is there to also use social media to enter but, again, it is entirely optional. (Just as participating in the contest itself is entirely optional.)
Illyriad (on principle that I feel strongly about) never forces anyone to spam their friends on facebook or otherwise. Not in gameplay and not for this contest. I respect our players and will not cross that line.
That said, yes, we do have official social media channels for Illyriad. I run them and I hope that they provide value to players who choose to follow us there. One of those sources of value (in this case) is extra entries into a contest.
And again, this is not the first and will not be the last contest that we hold for Illyriad. We've done others in the past that have no tie-in to social media at all and I'm sure we'll do some again.
I hope that helps to clarify, and again, there is no dishonest intent here. Just another avenue with which to provide something that (I hope) players will enjoy.
Luna
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Marquesta
Wordsmith
Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Location: Nevada, USA
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Points: 180
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 18:53 |
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You can't enter again with your alt?
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~~Marquesta
Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them...
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Tordenkaffen
Postmaster
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Location: Denmark
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Points: 821
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 18:40 |
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I have to agree a little with Brids here, I can't partake as I try not to advertise to the whole world what I do in my sparetime. Its private.
I wish there was an alternative to the twitter/facebook stuff.
We broadly agree on the goal, but the means...notsomuch.
Cheers.
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Brids17
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Joined: 30 Jul 2010
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 17:56 |
Maybe it's just me but I felt this was kind of cheap and dishonest. I'm all for random prizes and giveaways but at least state your intentions of it. No where in your post did you even hint that this was just ploy to bribe us into advertising for you for free. No where on the actual webpage did it say that either. It wasn't until I saw you got extra points liking on facebook or tweeting it that I realized what it was.
I don't want to spam my friends with "Go here! Play this!". If we're having a conversation that warrants it, I may tell them about illy like I would with any other game. However I'm not going to mass endorse your game to everyone on my friend list in the hopes I can win $3 worth of in game content. Especially not when you don't even tell me up front that that's what you want me to do.
Admittedly, this kind of thing irks me more than most people but I don't think it's too much to ask that you're upfront about it. Especially if we're the ones advertising for you. All that said, I did have one entree and if by some rare chance I win, re-select someone else. I don't want it.
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Gragnog
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Joined: 28 Nov 2011
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Points: 598
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Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 13:22 |
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Also got nothing in email. Guess it was worth a try.
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