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Aurordan
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Topic: EE / Consone Agression Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 05:56 |
DeathDealer89 wrote:
I find it highly amusing that consone members will come in hear and bad mouth and H? player for saying this while their members are saying why they are being attacked in the middle of a war.
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What's even funnier is when you realize that H? members are doing the exact same thing. It completely dispels the illusion that any of the races are creatures of logic.
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DeathDealer89
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 05:33 |
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Thats correct everyone comes to the assistance of VIC. and well if the 'lower' alliances gets attacked well they can just fend for themselves.
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Hora
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 04:51 |
Ehm, maybe it's because it is at the far side of the world, with most armies taking many DAYS to arrive....
Further, those all so bright enemies keep sending out attack on attack (many of them feints) to most players.
We DO defend against many sieges right now, but even Consone isn't almighty!
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DeathDealer89
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 01:46 |
Grego wrote:
H? know how to pick theirs, like Tullernas : http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map
Quote from her profile page: "Elves are elusive creatures that like forests, nature and do not like fighting. So friends to all."
Coolest town is to be rezzed just because it's easy isolated target
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Yea i remember that one. In the consone mutal defense pack or whatever you want to call it. Not one person came to assist her.
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DeathDealer89
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 01:45 |
I find it highly amusing that consone members will come in hear and bad mouth and H? player for saying this while their members are saying why they are being attacked in the middle of a war.
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Gon
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Posted: 19 Oct 2012 at 23:28 |
Starry wrote:
lmao, you just keep repeating that story and maybe, just maybe, someone will believe it. Spin, spin, spin.
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Hmm, this makes it sound like this isn't what happened. This seems to be the only story I've seem to come across after reading the seemingly unending war treads (although each side portrays their actions as reasonable, while the actions of the other side are just overly aggressive). If there is more to the story I would be very interested in hearing it.
Edited by Gon - 19 Oct 2012 at 23:29
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Mr Damage
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Posted: 19 Oct 2012 at 22:08 |
Starry wrote:
lmao, you just keep repeating that story and maybe, just maybe, someone will believe it. Spin, spin, spin.
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I'm sorry, that was another failure. Try again. :D |
Ditto for your side Starry but tis a war so this is what war brings.
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Tatharion
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Posted: 19 Oct 2012 at 17:23 |
The EE/Consone Aggression?? LMAO Tansiraine, you have quite a bit of nerve considering I am today on the receiving end of a couple of inbound military assault from....Tansiraine!! I am not sure we have been formally introduced actually; My name is Tatharion, Trade Senator at Invictus. I wish we had been able to meet in different circumstances! I can't recall that I have displayed any aggressive behavior toward you in the past! The brainwashing on your end is getting so intense that you might end up believing what you keep repeating yourselves! Kind regards, Tatharion
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Starry
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Posted: 19 Oct 2012 at 17:22 |
lmao, you just keep repeating that story and maybe, just maybe, someone will believe it. Spin, spin, spin.
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I'm sorry, that was another failure. Try again. :D
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Arian
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Posted: 19 Oct 2012 at 17:04 |
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The heading of this thread is EE/Consone Aggression. So I thought I would check on the facts surrounding the aggressive moves.
In chronological order
1.RHY declared War on Absa, over Absa removing RHY troops (with prior notification as I understand it, so any troop losses were due to RHY not sending a messenger) 2 tiles away from a city belong to Absa's ally SkB, and sent sieges to Absa towns (maybe an overreaction to avoidable troop losses?). 2.Absa asked for help in breaking sieges, not in any aggressive moves on RHY towns, Invictus was closest and decided to help in siege breaking only. 3.H? decided that Invictus breaking sieges was aggressive (Ummm - run that past me again?) and sent in sieges themselves and reinforcement troops to RHY siege camps sieging Absa towns. 4.H? decided that sieging Absa wasn't enough so declared war on Invictus and Absa (read the post by KP about why they declared war - very little, if anything, to do with the events between RHY and Absa - almost entirely some suppositions about possible future motives of Consone and some dredging up of irrelevant ancient history from before I, and probably most people, were even on the server). 5.Everyone else piled in on whichever side they were allied or had diplomatic ties to. 6. So far all the aggressive moves have been H? sieges on Consone affiliated members, I haven't seen any mention of anyone from H? being attacked and I have been looking. Scouting to see if someone in your neighbourhood (on the opposite side) is arming for war isn't, under the circumstances, an aggressive move; more one of determining local threat levels. I am assuming this is due to Consone being made made up of non aggressive alliances, doubtless others can and will draw other conclusions. All mentions of bullying etc have been after the events which sparked the conflict off, in nearly all cases they only got mentioned after H? declared War. I have scoured the forums for posts regarding Consone bullying dated before the current events and have failed to find any. H? consistently and continuously refers to Consone as soup - a gratuitous and somewhat childish insult. I am as yet unaware of any similar insults being tossed at H? Might seem trivial but slinging around such insults is the mark of a playground bully and doesn't reflect well on H? All of the above can be seen by checking dates and times on diplomacy pages and reading the forum CAREFULLY whilst ignoring all the rhetoric. To the outsider dispassionately looking on I don't see any evidence of EE/Consone behaving aggressively at all.
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