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So you need a 10:1 ratio to take on a 20 member alliance?   REALLY?    How brave of you.  :D

So no one had a issue with CK bullying RE?   That's acceptable behavior and allies shouldn't come to their aid?     At least NC coming to RE's aid made the playing field a little more even, it was only 80+ members (CK) vs 40 (NC/RE) members but NC is called a bully?     What alternate universal are you living in?    
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Points: 550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 13:46
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

So you need a 10:1 ratio to take on a 20 member alliance?   REALLY?    How brave of you.  :D



I do not believe anyone said it was brave, it is certainly a smart thing to do.
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Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

So apparently everyone decided to overlook my direct quote from Hath, where he clearly stated that he wanted war.

Geofrey- TVM was a member of the last war.

Thank you. Once again my ignorance shows. I don't think TVM ever declared against my old alliance, Affirmative Action, and I had the entire Coalition declare against me. So I was a little confused about their participation. 

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Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

This appears to be revisionist history, in  the early days H was the one who stood up to White, and H took the lead on protecting new players.    Give one example where H dictated how any alliance ran their alliance unless they were preying on new players?

Then tell me how this is fair by any stretch of the imagination:

Members  Pop 
NC 20            2,007,473
NAAM 35            2,897,637
uCrow 33            2,443,199
CK (XckX) 80            3,142,108
DARK 80            6,626,970
EE 81            6,323,921
ALT 51            1,284,219
Totals 360         22,718,054

I believe you should look up the definition of a bully.    Play all the games you want but HATH's post made it very clear what is going on here, maybe you buy the "NC is a bully" propaganda but I advise you to step back and review the facts or you can continue to drink the koolaid that Hath has offered.

You don't seem to have included TVM and H? and others in this have you?  NC are a military alliance. They know what to expect. To their credit they haven't come to the forum with the kind of propoganda that H? has perviously used in the Valar War, The Consone War and here in this thread. Which is why players might more respect for NC? than they currently do for the  H?  "Smear and Siege" machine.
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Originally posted by ES2 ES2 wrote:

Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

So you need a 10:1 ratio to take on a 20 member alliance?   REALLY?    How brave of you.  :D



I do not believe anyone said it was brave, it is certainly a smart thing to do.

Smart in what way, what is smart about ganging up on a 20 member alliance.   Smart is not the word I would use, cowardice is more like it.    Bullying comes to mind as well.

Unless of course you mean smart in the way it achieves the bigger goal?    Why don't you explain to the Illy public your motives and goals...oh nevermind, Hath already did that in his forum posts.  :D

Still can't fight your own battles, EE needs to lie and maneuver other alliances to back him up.    Yes, this is a repeat of the Consone war, somethings never change.
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Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

...somethings never change.
Seems that way,but it never to late for you Starry. Just put on a happy smile and say "Yes I can" Smile
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Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

Originally posted by ES2 ES2 wrote:

Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

So you need a 10:1 ratio to take on a 20 member alliance?   REALLY?    How brave of you.  :D



I do not believe anyone said it was brave, it is certainly a smart thing to do.

Smart in what way

I am still under the assumption we are referencing Night Crusaders as the twenty member alliance. NC is a well oiled machine, they are capable of dealing out a lot of punishment and seemingly taking very little. Those that are engaged in war with NC have recognized the threat and have grouped together to better eliminate it.

I would be honored to have my enemies rally together in a bid to eliminate me, I would also be a little annoyed that they would be wise to rally together to prevent unneeded losses.
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ES2 the answer is then to find a group of  motivated individuals and combat them on roghly even terms.
The answer is not to start a lynching mob - which is what it really sums up to. Dont include the whole server in this, excercise precision and you would get a lot further with a lot less effort.
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Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

ES2 the answer is then to find a group of  motivated individuals and combat them on roghly even terms.
The answer is not to start a lynching mob - which is what it really sums up to. 
So a large amount of players who agree to attack another or smaller group of players are bullies?


How many times have we seen a lynching mob form against a player who was "tried and convicted" for being a new player bully?
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Points: 418 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 14:07
Sorry, I got lost here. Why is the NC war being discussed in the EE vs H? thread?
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