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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 13:49
Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

So apparently everyone decided to overlook my direct quote from Hath, where he clearly stated that he wanted war.

Geofrey- TVM was a member of the last war.

Thank you. Once again my ignorance shows. I don't think TVM ever declared against my old alliance, Affirmative Action, and I had the entire Coalition declare against me. So I was a little confused about their participation. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 13:46
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

So you need a 10:1 ratio to take on a 20 member alliance?   REALLY?    How brave of you.  :D



I do not believe anyone said it was brave, it is certainly a smart thing to do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 13:44
So you need a 10:1 ratio to take on a 20 member alliance?   REALLY?    How brave of you.  :D

So no one had a issue with CK bullying RE?   That's acceptable behavior and allies shouldn't come to their aid?     At least NC coming to RE's aid made the playing field a little more even, it was only 80+ members (CK) vs 40 (NC/RE) members but NC is called a bully?     What alternate universal are you living in?    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 13:39
Um, EE never declared on NC so take us off that list.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 13:35
Originally posted by Starry<div><br></div><div>Then tell me how this is fair by any stretch of the imagination:</div><div><br></div><div><t></t><t></t><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=242 style=border-collapse:   collapse;width:182pt>
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  <td =xl63= width=80 style=width:60pt><font size=1>Members</font></td>
  <td =xl64= width=98 style=width:74pt><font size=1> Pop </font></td>
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  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>NC</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>20</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>           2,007,473 </font></td>
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  <td></td>
  <td =xl65=></td>
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  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>NAAM</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>35</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>           2,897,637 </font></td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style=height:15.0pt>
  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>uCrow</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>33</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>           2,443,199 </font></td>
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  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>CK (XckX)</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>80</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>           3,142,108 </font></td>
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  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>DARK</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>80</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>           6,626,970 </font></td>
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  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>EE</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>81</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>           6,323,921 </font></td>
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  <td height=20 style=height:15.0pt><font size=1>Totals</font></td>
  <td align=right><font size=1>360</font></td>
  <td =xl65=><font size=1>        22,718,054 </font></td>
 </tr></t></table><br></div><div><br></div>[/QUOTE Starry

Then tell me how this is fair by any stretch of the imagination:

Members  Pop 
NC 20            2,007,473
NAAM 35            2,897,637
uCrow 33            2,443,199
CK (XckX) 80            3,142,108
DARK 80            6,626,970
EE 81            6,323,921
ALT 51            1,284,219
Totals 360         22,718,054


[/QUOTE wrote:




 

War is never fair, to request it to be would mean for it to become something of an exercise. A conflict with rules that would have combat proceed until a certain point. What is the value in engaging in a conflict but having to restrict yourself to be as close to a 1:1 as possible? Where is the value in allies, so they can cheer on the sidelines?



 

War is never fair, to request it to be would mean for it to become something of an exercise. A conflict with rules that would have combat proceed until a certain point. What is the value in engaging in a conflict but having to restrict yourself to be as close to a 1:1 as possible? Where is the value in allies, so they can cheer on the sidelines?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 12:48
Originally posted by Darmon Darmon wrote:

Why are you all saying that EE wanted a war with H? if they only declared on TVM?


As stated above Hath said they would declare on one alliance to get "the rest of the coalition" involved.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 12:39
This appears to be revisionist history, in  the early days H was the one who stood up to White, and H took the lead on protecting new players.    Give one example where H dictated how any alliance ran their alliance unless they were preying on new players?

Then tell me how this is fair by any stretch of the imagination:

Members  Pop 
NC 20            2,007,473
NAAM 35            2,897,637
uCrow 33            2,443,199
CK (XckX) 80            3,142,108
DARK 80            6,626,970
EE 81            6,323,921
ALT 51            1,284,219
Totals 360         22,718,054

I believe you should look up the definition of a bully.    Play all the games you want but HATH's post made it very clear what is going on here, maybe you buy the "NC is a bully" propaganda but I advise you to step back and review the facts or you can continue to drink the koolaid that Hath has offered.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 10:58
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:


<span style=": rgb251, 244, 225; line-height: 1.4;">Of course, I do remember a time in Illy when so many alliances piling on one small alliance was considered bullying, apparently, integrity and fair play have gone from the game.  </span>



Of course, I remember a time when H? would not back up alliances like NC no matter what they do. I also remember situations where mighty H? was threatening and fighting small alliances or single players that did not behave according to what H? considered to be 'fair play'. This 'fair play' can be defined very differently. For many players I belive NC does not look like an alliance that treats them 'fair'. And H?, TCol and others apparently backing up NC whenever they get themselves into trouble does not appear to be 'fair' for those alliances that are under attack by NC. What NC was doing is not a 'fair' fight. And also the cancelation of a peace treaty as is happening now and here is obviously not considered 'fair' from many players. I suggest H? to use this word more carefull when reffering to the entire game. Fairness is something very subjective.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 09:33
Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:


Especially those RL examples are crap: in RL people DIE, in Illy they don't!!Nuke
(Thanks Luna for preventing those!)


Which is imho all the more reason to not insult logic and real life, by sophistries for the sake of a game.

And Luna prevented current politics, not ancient ones. How fortunate that the past is much broader than the present, eh .?. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 08:52
Why are you all saying that EE wanted a war with H? if they only declared on TVM?
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