Eagles Eyrie surrenders to Harmless?

I can't believe that anyone is trying to justify this as "stopping the evil NC aggressive alliance".

You all are a bunch of very intelligent individuals. You know full well that H? stands by its confeds when attacked and therefore this is obviously an attempt to take H? and allies out. Fine. You have great numbers this time. I wish you luck. Thank you for the challenge.

But, for the love of all that is holy, please stop trying to make this about anything more than it is, namely a revenge play by ex-Consone alliances who have managed to gather some new alliances to their side this time. Hath even laid it out in his post on his forum.

Sorry, I got lost here. Why is the NC war being discussed in the EE vs H? thread?

ES2 the answer is then to find a group of  motivated individuals and combat them on roghly even terms.
The answer is not to start a lynching mob - which is what it really sums up to. Dont include the whole server in this, excercise precision and you would get a lot further with a lot less effort.

Starry wrote: ...somethings never change.

Starry wrote: This appears to be revisionist history, in  the early days H was the one who stood up to White, and H took the lead on protecting new players.    Give one example where H dictated how any alliance ran their alliance unless they were preying on new players? Then tell me how this is fair by any stretch of the imagination: Members  Pop  NC 20            2,007,473 NAAM 35            2,897,637 uCrow 33            2,443,199 CK (XckX) 80            3,142,108 DARK 80            6,626,970 EE 81            6,323,921 ALT 51            1,284,219 Totals 360         22,718,054 I believe you should look up the definition of a bully.    Play all the games you want but HATH's post made it very clear what is going on here, maybe you buy the "NC is a bully" propaganda but I advise you to step back and review the facts or you can continue to drink the koolaid that Hath has offered.