Dlords Claiming of space for Home.

I don't really understand some peoples problems...

There are no existing foreign cities, new players teleport out, new settler don't loose more than ca. 100 pop when resettled, and once that area is packed with DLord, noone can teleport in (anyone remembering 10 squares rule?)

And for VIC territory, I haven't heared of anyone claiming anything yet
If someone settles near us, and he's nice, we're nice, too, if not...eh...not
So everyone gets, what he brings along...

kindly Hora

A prison, a prison.... yes you are not wrong. if you do a military action, everyone looks carefully at you ready to correct you if you go too far.
everything works with bluf, diplomatics intesrests, wise actions, negociations, explainations.

in fact that's pretty like our actual military context all over the world. every big contry has the atomic bomb, but that is just to show their power and tell that if anyone attacked them, there would be many death in both camps. that's just a mean of pressure.

take an exemple of military inititives, just 2 years ago, when Russia sent soldiers in Kosovo. nobody liked this, but considering  the risks taken punishing Russia, and considering that they were not going too far in their maneuvers... nobody did anything.
and well of course im not talking about Irak but studying this conlict you can see all the diplomatic interests between the USA and the other main countries.

this is the share of the power that brings our actual "peace".

and that works exactly the same in Illirad. regarding diplomacy, Illyriad is verry realistic.

For that i must applause Dlords initiative, and i find that very interesting to see how diplomacy works. and we must reconize that Dlords are doing well what TMM did bad :)

And yes i agree that this is great to be realistic, but that could curb a large commercialisation. yes actually this is that realistic that you can lose months/years of playing. Agree some things must change, but this game is in constant evolution thanks to our great GM's.... and we are here to give ideas to enchance the game experience as well.
we have good GM's and a good community, so the harderst is already done :)




Edited by Mandarins31 - 27 Jan 2011 at 02:05

belargyle wrote:     Fourthly, We have asked no one to 'watch' our borders nor is any requested to do so. We do have allies such as Goonies nearby for mutual benefit and they are permitted within our bounds as we discuss or have discussed them. Our allies knew we were moving here to set up a Dwarven Homeland in the Mountains (RP) and we knew in the general areas they were moving to as well. We never openly declared this as not to many were near us at the time OR because they were expanding away from our Homeland. However, things are moving faster and people moving closer so it was necessary for me to post this.

The_Dude wrote: My concern that is that this will emulated by other alliances.  And then I could find myself in someone's claimed territory and then driven from Illy.  This concern makes me hesitant to invest time, real money (prestige), and emotional energy in Illy.   Let's be real...unless you are H?, there is always someone bigger and stronger than you in Illy. And let's also recognize that in Illy, the law of the land is Might makes Right.   Further, in Illy, war means players leaving Illy.   Since there is not a game in Illy, only a social environment, there is no point in wars beyond driving players from this virtual environment.   So to me, all this seems to be an artifice to create a Casis Belli so that later Dlord can offer the pretense of fairness in driving players from Illy.   Frankly, I see this as a long-term path to Illy's failure as a commercial venture as more and more players see that Illy is operating as a Prison Gang environment.  Only in this Prison, real people can leave at will.  And they will leave as they face unfettered attacks for no valid reason except someone else said "give me your city cuz I don't like where it is."   Which then leaves me to think that this is a lot of pointless chest-thumping.  Dlord has drawn a line in the sand and double-dog dares anyone to cross thier line.  OK.  That's thier right.  I do not intend to settle in that area.   But...and this is just my opinion...this seems like a silliness squared.   Finally, It is not surprising that Drawves have a Napleon Complex.

Let's be real TD.. War does not mean people leaving. In fact, it is one of the reasons people play this game. Unjust wars that are bent on total demolition of all they so choose.. yes.. that can and will lead to people exiting the game post-haste.  It was for that very same purpose Dlords tried to help you and your old alliance out, remember. We were are war with our alliance, and you chose to stand down and we negotiated a peace with you, us and our allies. And when one of our own allies turned on their word to you.. us and others stepped in to help stop it.. and eventaully had to go to war with that same old Ally (with other allies of ours) because they became war hungry, and that group had to remove them because they would not relent.

oh dear, TD. So, by your logic, us claiming our little piece of land is ultimately going to lead to the death of Illyriad. Oh dear, the GMs need to jump into this issue right away!!! </sarcasm>

Seriously, if we can't wage any kind of war because it will "drive away players" (what, every time? Is the tourney going to drive away players because of the warfare on the flags?) then i'd quit right now. I am of the warrior cast, and if i can't actually DO what line of RP i wanted from this game (ie: bashing some ppls head in) then i might as well quit the game right now too.

Why give us troops if we should be too scared to use them, according to you. Stop being so paranoid.