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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2021 at 21:57
You're asking for a major code change just because you disagree with the policy change of a handful of alliances. It's frankly ridiculous, and I hope the devs don't dignify it with a response, let alone indulge it. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Thirion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2021 at 22:19
Originally posted by King Sigerius King Sigerius wrote:

How about the pvp players quitting because there isn't enough pvp? You don't seem to care about them.


I do care about them. I do not know enough though on how to fix their problems. The PVP players should do that. In a way that does not hurt other players of the game that want to stay out of it.

Originally posted by <span style=font-weight: normal;><span id=userPro11 =msgSidePro title=View Drop Down><span style=font-weight: normal;>Grom</span></span></span> Grom wrote:

You're asking for a major code change just because you disagree with the policy change of a handful of alliances.

The technology is there (rainbow) thus an easy implementation might be fast. That is not the point of the post though.

Originally posted by <span style=font-weight: normal;><span id=userPro11 =msgSidePro title=View Drop Down><span style=font-weight: normal;>Grom</span></span></span> Grom wrote:

It's frankly ridiculous, and I hope the devs don't dignify it with a response, let alone indulge it. 
That would be an answer too.

You started the "attack" on the non-PVP player base. As i wrote, i am just trying to fight back and protect them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote King Sigerius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2021 at 22:33
We're fixing the problem right now! lmao
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrianN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2021 at 22:34
So there are two possibilities
A) The devs listen to this and radically change this entire game trying to cater to a few loud voices and abandon the game they have developed for years.
or
B) They keep the game as is, causing a lot of loud complaining from a few people and maybe some departures.
 
I sincerely hope that we harm as few non pvp'ers as possible, but this game is a sandbox game, and if you want the things you want, you have every right to put together a coalition and make yourself known.
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Originally posted by BrianN BrianN wrote:

So there are two possibilities
A) The devs listen to this and radically change this entire game trying to cater to a few loud voices and abandon the game they have developed for years.
or
B) They keep the game as is, causing a lot of loud complaining from a few people and maybe some departures.


In my opinion your are completely misreading the player base of Illyriad. I do not have the details, but in my experience there are (a lot) more non-PVP players than PVP players. And yes, most of them are quiet - but they are still playing and enjoying the game. And some of them do not use GC because they are scared of upsetting PVP players.

Since i started playing the game there were multiple instances were non-PVP players got attacked or declared on because they said something in GC that another PVP player did not like.

I am ready to abandon my accounts if needed. Otherwise i would not have done this. I expect to get attacked soon. As that is the usual way of resolving conflicts for PVP players - even against non-PVP players. If that is the way it should be played according to the devs then i am fine with it.


Originally posted by BrianN BrianN wrote:

 
I sincerely hope that we harm as few non pvp'ers as possible, but this game is a sandbox game, and if you want the things you want, you have every right to put together a coalition and make yourself known.

I honestly would love to fight you. But i won't. Because then you get what you want. You "win" and the problem does not really get solved in the long run. To quote myself: It is usually smarter to not engange in what the other player is good at but instead play your own strength


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Listen to this guy, public crying is his strength!  
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Originally posted by Thirion Thirion wrote:

I am ready to abandon my accounts if needed. Otherwise i would not have done this. I expect to get attacked soon. As that is the usual way of resolving conflicts for PVP players - even against non-PVP players. If that is the way it should be played according to the devs then i am fine with it

I hope you don't abandon, and I hope you will give up this folly. But to correct a slight mistake in your reasoning here, the usual way of resolving conflict through PvP applied to this case wouldn't get you attacked, but random players in ITG. 
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Originally posted by Grom Grom wrote:

I hope you don't abandon, and I hope you will give up this folly. But to correct a slight mistake in your reasoning here, the usual way of resolving conflict through PvP applied to this case wouldn't get you attacked, but random players in ITG. 


I was only a guest at ITG to fight in faction play and the tournaments with them. And help their players with advice and resources. I left with both of my accounts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrianN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2021 at 23:22
It confounds me how easily people here (in general) abandon and come back all the time.  There's no need to abandon...if the game isn't doing it for you anymore, take a break.  If there's ANY chance you'd come back there's no reason to abandon...don't burn bridges.
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Your advice was much appreciated Thirion.  Thank you for everything.
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