Delayed attacks

the delay should cost everyone equally, to have an army at the ready only costs gold now, mebbe if camp time is allowed than this could cost food and gold for the duration of the camp. This could be double or triple of the cost to stay in the castle and launch without camp time , due to the fact that costs outside of the city would be more. A simple solution without giving it away.

restricting the restrictions? :p

im agree with you 1 hour wouldn't be enough.

actually the delay time will be 48h max for the prestige users. but we could imagine a 8 or 9 h possible delay time for the free accounts, with the said restrictions.

Createure wrote: (for prestige maybe you could say free acounts can only set up 1 army with "waiting time" per city with max. 6 hours wait, upgraded accounts can set up more than 1 army with max. 8 hours waiting time.)

i agree with the idea that non-prestige accounts could use the advantages of the delay, with restricted conditions.

Createure wrote: Also one other thing, for people saying "we should be able to set an "arrival time" for armies I think probably there's a problem. Imagine an alliance of 50 people each sending 10 armies to one location at exactly the same time to the second...? I imagine you're gonna be getting some problems with how the server is going to handle that, and also a problem with what order the armies arrive in, and also a problem with the "game sense" of the situation, because the armies will all attack seperately even though they are actually generating a battle report at exactly the same time.

in fact that's not really a problem if 100 armies, allied or ennemies, arrive at a location at the exact same hour. and you dont need to make them fight in alphabetic order of what.
we are here talking about avoiding a grouped attacked (as if all the armies where one). but in fact, what is the difference between 1 big army and the same army devided in various armies?
if my memory is good, the only difference is the overpower. that's why 10 000 knights are better than 2 armies of 5 000 knights.
then, you just have to pull of the overpower bonus that would be given by the addition of all the armies. you just keep the overpower of each army individually.
then, various army can attack at the same time, but it would be as if they attacked individually. and you have no organization problems for knowing who will attack first... and lose his army.... while the last to attack may not lose their army.
attacking together without added overpower has the benefit to make every army lose the same %age of soldiers.

that's why personnally, i would really like to see the arrival day and hour. and more, say your army to attack at that hour, and it would delay it automatically if the delay is not bigger than your autorised delay. (to allow to be prescise in the organisation of the battles)
even if this is not a big automated thing, that would be an automated feature anyway. so, well, i agree that calculate your arrival time by yourself is also a good thing... so i dont have an ended opinion about this, even if i would prefer to see the arrival time and dealy my army automatically.






Edited by Mandarins31 - 19 Jan 2011 at 19:02

Createure wrote:  Imagine an alliance of 50 people each sending 10 armies to one location at exactly the same time to the second...? I imagine you're gonna be getting some problems with how the server is going to handle that, and also a problem with what order the armies arrive in, and also a problem with the "game sense" of the situation, because the armies will all attack seperately even though they are actually generating a battle report at exactly the same time.

Babbens wrote: In the Military Mission tab, it would be useful to be able to set a time at which your army would automatically start for its destination, be you logged in or not. That would take care of the distance/time zones issue, when sometimes you want the attack to land at a precise moment, and have to burn the midnight oil to launch it. Again, just an idea.

A game I used to play with a kind-of-similar idea to this had a system where you could launcharmies with a MAXIMUM 8 hour delay... this meant that people with launch times at 6am could set their launch up at 10pm before going to bed. Or at 4pm when they're at work they can set a launch up at 8am before they leave.

lokifeyson wrote: hey lets add 4 more build and research ques while we are at it, lol, then I wouldn't have to log in for weeks.......

The_Dude wrote: I think they designed Illy to encourage log-ins and not automated accounts.  The human element would be greatly diminished with the automated launches and expanded queues.  Illy would lose a lot of its social charateristics if we all automated our cities and had no reason to log-in on a regular basis.

I totally agree with the above 2 quotes... but I think if there is a solid cap on the amount of 'waiting time' an army is allowed to have it makes things more convenient for people without making the game completely automated. i.e. you still need to log in almost as many times to set up your launches, but just at least inconvenient times of day. (for prestige maybe you could say free acounts can only set up 1 army with "waiting time" per city with max. 6 hours wait, upgraded accounts can set up more than 1 army with max. 8 hours waiting time.)

Sure we have account sitting already, so you can get someone else to launch your army for you in a different time zone... it isn't always easy to find trusted sitters for the right time though.

So yeh I pretty much agree with both of you. And I think a waiting time with a maximum cap on it is the solution. It wouldn't even have to be 8 hours... maybe even just 1 or 2 hours. Also if you do that it gives people a few chances to get their launch time correct or to re-set their launch if they miss their time.

Zeus wrote: I like this plus Lokifeyson's idea with more ques. I hate that there are only two. It takes so much time plus you have to log on every few hours if you want to do mass building.

He was being sarcastic man... there's a cap of 1 qued research/building deliberately so people don't get to just ques tons of stuff and then hardly ever log in. Basically it means people that are more active get rewarded.


Edited by Createure - 19 Jan 2011 at 14:32