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belargyle 
Forum Warrior
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
Location: USA
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Points: 401
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 Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 16:42 |
 Sir Bradly wrote:
Dark was scouted when Sisren gave public support to Gim and said they would help them out. So we scouted a few of the officers to see what the troop composition was.
That is not an "attack".
Either way, Sisren, please forward your documentation supporting your attack claims. Geofrey will review and post after reading them. |
My nickles worth... If you send scouts or spies to most any of the alliances of Illy, it is considered an act of war and they will retaliate against it viciously. I'm just letting you know this before you try that little number on others and bite off more than you can chew. As far back as I can remember this has been a standard policy by most alliances.
So to state it is not an 'attack' might be from your point of view, does not make it so from other side and they will respond in accordance with 'their' view. Just saying
Edited by belargyle - 26 Sep 2012 at 16:43
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Vibs
Greenhorn
Joined: 29 Jan 2012
Location: India
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Points: 100
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 16:35 |
ES2 wrote:
Does that mean other crow alliances will back Kcrow then? |
I don't speak for all the crows. Just KCrow. Our support of STEEL is independent as of now and is limited to defending STEEL cities.
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Vanerin
Forum Warrior
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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Points: 418
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 16:00 |
Taron,
I think you might be in the wrong thread... This one appears to be about Dark's situation with NC. This is not about any perception of one alliance "bullying/annihilating/singling-out/etc" another one.
Princess Xanax and Sir Bradly, Thank you for clarifying about the diplomats.
~Vanerin
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Taron
Greenhorn
Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Location: Hell Wisconsin
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Points: 81
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 15:50 |
So far I am no were in any way involved in this! But, as I remember
correctly, if an alliance goes and singles out one member of another alliance (from
previous history, if you don’t remember then….. I cannot say anything more for
it would get me in trouble), it is an act of war against all members. As well
if there is even clarification of intentions (like singling out a person to ‘Hurt’),
this means a complete annihilation of that alliance (another thing I have
learned in previous and resent history). At least that’s how I see it now. Ya I
have No proof, or any involvement but as I know, ~NC~ has decided to wipe out
an alliance, which from my knowledge isn’t allowed in the Illyriad community,
otherwise supposable a month ago one alliance would have ‘Supposable’ (to
Illyriads records of being able to predict the future) Annihilated another
(which they will be nameless but one deals with Norse Mythology and a road that
is long).
As I said I have no idea what’s really going on but this is
how I see it sense Illyriad community has convinced me that this is how I am supposed
to see any form of war. Cause the community not involved is right…. Right?
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Sir Bradly
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Sep 2012
Location: Canada
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Points: 228
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 15:22 |
Dark was scouted when Sisren gave public support to Gim and said they would help them out. So we scouted a few of the officers to see what the troop composition was.
That is not an "attack".
Either way, Sisren, please forward your documentation supporting your attack claims. Geofrey will review and post after reading them.
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Princess Xanax
Greenhorn
Joined: 26 Nov 2011
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Points: 53
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 15:18 |
Vanerin wrote:
Sir Bradly,
Perhaps you did not read properly what Sisren wrote. You speak of "100% of all military attacks directed at Gimardoran's cities" while Sisren said "...members of Dark Empire have fallen victim to Diplomatic attacks." I do not see Sisren claiming any military attacks on Dark, but I do not see you addressing the diplomatic attacks mentioned.
~Vanerin
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We sent no diplo attacks on Dark. Scouts only, which is not an attack. But, believe what you will.
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Vanerin
Forum Warrior
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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Points: 418
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 15:08 |
Sir Bradly,
Perhaps you did not read properly what Sisren wrote. You speak of "100% of all military attacks directed at Gimardoran's cities" while Sisren said "...members of Dark Empire have fallen victim to Diplomatic attacks." I do not see Sisren claiming any military attacks on Dark, but I do not see you addressing the diplomatic attacks mentioned.
~Vanerin
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geofrey
Postmaster General
Joined: 31 May 2011
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Points: 1013
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 15:01 |
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I will take a look at the report and verify it's authenticity. Please forward the combat reports to me in-game.
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Sir Bradly
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Sep 2012
Location: Canada
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Points: 228
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 14:59 |
Sisren wrote:
Brids17 wrote:
Rill wrote:
Indeed Sisren you should have said "Since then we discovered that our members had joyfully volunteered to entertain various diplomatic representatives in our cities." |
Well if you don't want to be attacked don't get involved in a war. As I said, it's fine they're getting involved but the use of the word victim seems misplaced. |
People not involved with the reinforcement operation were attacked. Victim is quite apt.
You are free to have a different view, naturally. :) YMMV |
This is a complete fabrication. NC has ONLY attacked Steel towns. 100% of all military attacks directed at Gimardoran's cities. If someone lost troops if was because they were present reinforcing a city of Gimardoran's.
Sisren, please feel free to produce the combat report and send to someone neutral to verify this claim you have made. It is completely false. A weak attempt to conjure up more support for war declaration. Since you said "people" who are implying more than one person. So you should produce at least 2 combat reports.
Anyone volunteer to look at this fictitious claim. Someone not attached to this conflict?
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 1483
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 14:47 |
Sisren wrote:
People not involved with the reinforcement operation were attacked. Victim is quite apt. |
Well that's a bit different, thank you for explaining that.
ES2 wrote:
Does that mean other crow alliances will back Kcrow then? |
I can only speak for mCrow but we won't be getting involved. Jane did leave the alliance temporarily to give aid however, so you may see individual mCrow's getting involved.
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