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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 01:59
whatever...

Maybe the bitter sea was a better forum for this off topic.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 01:49
Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

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This happened what, 3-4 months ago, and was over with in 3 days?

You sure this problem isn't simply a cover for an entirely different dispute?



What difference does that make?

And I don't know what you're trying to imply.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 01:40
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This happened what, 3-4 months ago, and was over with in 3 days?

I fail to see the substance of this complaint - afterall several months ago I myself gave up a pop 3000 city to Curse at their request because my city was to close for their comfort, and that was a distance between the cities of 15-20 squares - near a faction hub.


Just to get this straight, there are numerous factual errors in White Smurfs narration of the events;
There was never a single spell cast - honestly, what point does it make to blight a city with less than 100 pop?
The only diplomats sent were scouts and spies - because I tend to get curious when players settle right next to me.
Lastly, what makes WS post so absurd is that the player and myself parted on good terms. He briefly stated that he understood how I could percieve his close presence as invasive and unpleasant, agreed to the move, and the fact that he took it like a good sport was the reason I sent him the compensation in the first place.



You sure this problem isn't simply a cover for an entirely different dispute that youre not willing to stand by?

I recognize the posters in this thread from another context.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 00:11
Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

Lesson is - dont settle your second city five tiles away from my cities in the heart of Fremorn CE territory. This has been said many times on the forum but Ill behappy to refresh: "Dont do stupid stuff and we get along much better."


And it's been said even more times, not everyone reads the forums. Especially 50-100 pop players.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 23:57
Not to interrupt, but isnt telling a player that he will be removed, as in his city"s" will be removed from said strip of the map, a threatening comment?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 23:46
Lesson is - dont settle your second city five tiles away from my cities in the heart of Fremorn CE territory. This has been said many times on the forum but Ill behappy to refresh: "Dont do stupid stuff and we get along much better."

Just to weed out the fabrications of the above post I want it to be cleat that I never threatened neither Tinuviel nor the player, I simply told both he would have to be removed.

As a sign of respect, I even chose to send him  compensation for his setback afterwards, which was a generous price for a small hamlet of less than 100 population.

So I dont see what youre really complaining about.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 23:41
Originally posted by White Smurf White Smurf wrote:

Greetings Honored Forum

I come to you in the name of the Calaquendi Crows, and wish to shed some light on some of the recent issues discussed here.

The general feeling from Tinuviel, myself and the leadership of CalaCr, is that it does not seem that Sheogorath is the true leader of CE, as well as SH and Tordenkaffen seem to be the same person. This does give us a rather bad feeling when both TK is calling for other alliances to play with open cards and not hide anything.

Combined with the following quote:
"Kurfist - I never enjoyed the confederation at all - in fact Im against the many confederacies that CE is entangled in, thats common knowledge. However I am not the leader of my alliance and therefore accept that others have a different take on it." from
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/search_results_posts.asp?SearchID=20110906220408&KW=

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"Seen from the perpective of a given alliance leader (which I am not, in case you were wondering) there should be satisfaction with the agreement as the major part dispute of the actual expelling of inactives will not be realised." - from
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/auto-kicking_topic2309_post26110.html?KW=#26110

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We have had some correspondence with CE, in the past and some of it has evolved around a claim for a specific part of Illyriad. Thus a newbie-player of ours was sieged without warning, which ofc led to our immidiate diplomatic attempts to try and sort out this mistake. As it turned out Sneaking Ham was not interested, and only wanted to remove our player due to the fact that he was in the vicinity of SHs town.
Based on this we decided to contact the "leader" of CE, Sheogorath, who offered to pay damages etc. but nevertheless admitted that he was unable to stop TK/SH from sieging our player.

As the sieged was lifted he continued with both diplomatic and magic attacks....and bear in mind...only a player around 50-100 pop.
We kept up the peace-talks and tried to find a solution, but alas, SH was not interested and threatened both our newbie as well as I and Tinuviel, that we should not come close to CE area nor him as he would not take kindly to that and that he intended to remove our newbie player from the area.
This did however not happen...we let it be, and decided that he did not have anything to back his claim.

Sheogorath has however, contacted us, asking if we could please stop our members from settling anywhere near their alliance members....it was called a "Border Agreement"...after our reply to "shove it" there has been no contact.

Best regards
White Smurf, Grand Emissary of the Calaquendi Crows


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 22:10
Greetings Honored Forum

I come to you in the name of the Calaquendi Crows, and wish to shed some light on some of the recent issues discussed here.

The general feeling from Tinuviel, myself and the leadership of CalaCr, is that it does not seem that Sheogorath is the true leader of CE, as well as SH and Tordenkaffen seem to be the same person. This does give us a rather bad feeling when both TK is calling for other alliances to play with open cards and not hide anything.

Combined with the following quote:
"Kurfist - I never enjoyed the confederation at all - in fact Im against the many confederacies that CE is entangled in, thats common knowledge. However I am not the leader of my alliance and therefore accept that others have a different take on it." from
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/search_results_posts.asp?SearchID=20110906220408&KW=

and

"Seen from the perpective of a given alliance leader (which I am not, in case you were wondering) there should be satisfaction with the agreement as the major part dispute of the actual expelling of inactives will not be realised." - from
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/auto-kicking_topic2309_post26110.html?KW=#26110

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We have had some correspondence with CE, in the past and some of it has evolved around a claim for a specific part of Illyriad. Thus a newbie-player of ours was sieged without warning, which ofc led to our immidiate diplomatic attempts to try and sort out this mistake. As it turned out Sneaking Ham was not interested, and only wanted to remove our player due to the fact that he was in the vicinity of SHs town.
Based on this we decided to contact the "leader" of CE, Sheogorath, who offered to pay damages etc. but nevertheless admitted that he was unable to stop TK/SH from sieging our player.

As the sieged was lifted he continued with both diplomatic and magic attacks....and bear in mind...only a player around 50-100 pop.
We kept up the peace-talks and tried to find a solution, but alas, SH was not interested and threatened both our newbie as well as I and Tinuviel, that we should not come close to CE area nor him as he would not take kindly to that and that he intended to remove our newbie player from the area.
This did however not happen...we let it be, and decided that he did not have anything to back his claim.

Sheogorath has however, contacted us, asking if we could please stop our members from settling anywhere near their alliance members....it was called a "Border Agreement"...after our reply to "shove it" there has been no contact.

Best regards
White Smurf, Grand Emissary of the Calaquendi Crows
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2011 at 21:34
Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

You are reaching Ander and wasting my time

No Torden, you are wasting your time. I was trying to help you realize! Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2011 at 20:40
Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

You are reaching Ander and wasting my time

No Torden, you are wasting your time. I was trying to help you realize! Tongue
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