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Neytiri 
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 Topic: Crazy??Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 19:54 |
Um. . . no she didn't. You're funny Corwin. I feel like you're trying hard to disagree with me or something. Here's my quote: "Why not allow me, or you, to advertise a tournament in the Herald so it's easy for people to see that its happening? Why not give me, or you, a venue to post statistics on who's winning, etc.?" KP has it right. A simple link in the Herald letting people know where they can learn more about an Illy-wide tournament would satisfy part of my request for the developers to do more to support players facilitating the "narrative" on their own. As for sharing statistics, if it were me organizing the tournament I would probably try to keep track of things in a shared google doc or something. Maybe I like the simplicity of what Myr is doing with the tournament on the 22nd by using the Attack statistics page. The fact is that Herald had gotten so old I wouldn't even have lined a bird cage with it. |
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jtk310
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Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 15:53 |
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I will continue to harp on this as I have in the past...
If Illy were made open source, I am sure many of us with programming experience could help out. The hardest part would come first, re-factoring the code. My understanding is that the code was often code-and-fix model, which means it is probably a bit messy. Once refactoring is complete it would be much easier to solve current problems and perhaps make a few new features. Bug fixes would be the next thing to tackle, and of course the current code team could test any commits before they were made to the main code. Once the code is maintainable (due to re-factoring step) and runs in the expected manner (bug fix step), new features should be much less costly (time/server space) to add. To me, this is beneficial to everyone as more eyes looking at the code can maybe help knock it into shape. Also, to reply to the OP, I don't think anyone is trying to cheat anyone. I think it can be difficult to estimate the costs of this type of project.
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GM Stormcrow
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Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 02:07 |
Heyya Daefis, It went very well! Unfortunately, we didn't break the record as we simply didn't have enough people concurrently ingame at the same time - but all the technology worked and it was a blast! If anyone's interested, we're having another public airing of AoA this saturday at 8pm GMT. Just turn up at the website with a modern web browser and we hope you have fun! Best, SC
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Daefis
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Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 00:22 |
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Hi SC
That was an interesting review. How did the record attempt go? EDIT: I'm not here as a naysayer. It looked kind of interesting. Just curious. Edited by Daefis - 20 Mar 2014 at 00:26 |
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GM Stormcrow
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Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 00:01 |
Hi Salarius, What you might have missed is that the "eye candy" is actual ingame screenshots of an already existing game that's been built and is playable right now, and has been played by lots of people who had fun doing it. For example: It'd be great if you want to join in with AoA - but if it's not your cup of tea then that's super cool as well. Best, SC |
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Corwin
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Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 18:52 |
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totally agree with you there KP, the devs could put a link in the herald to forum threads about tourneys. That wasn't what Neytiri suggested, or what I responded on. He (or she?) asked for himself or others to post in the herald with updates on the tournement. That is where I see the problems arise. Would every tournement be interesting enough to let the organising player(s) post in the herald? I think not. Then who would be allowed and who wouldn't? I would like the herald to be completely neutral, and not written by players. We have our venue here in the forums.
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 18:27 |
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Corwin - your slippery slope argument is pretty poor.
I agree with Neytiri - it should be possible and straight-forward to submit a piece to Illy for inclusion in the herald, at the very least a "classifieds" section at the end of the herald which could include entries that simply say: "Player X is organizing an ABC style tourney - see this forum thread for details:" It should also be possible (but more difficult and requiring devel effort) to track tourney stats and get a page for said tourney somewhere everyone can reach it (without it being "in the way"). |
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Kvrgava Klada
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Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 17:20 |
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" Small group = more efficient"
Your group is everything but efficient. I think you are now in the situation where you can't see a tree from the forest. I know what are you thinking now and no,... you are not right. People in your position never see they are wrong and will never admit they were wrong. You are not first to get into this kind of trap :) |
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Corwin
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Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 18:45 |
You have a venue, right here in the forums. Having players post in the herald is confusing for new players who won't know how serious the words in the herald should be taken. And, offcourse, if you get to write in the herald, I might want a piece as well (not really), just as everybody else. I think that would make the herald unreadable for most people. Or at least not interesting enough to scroll through endless pages of irrellevant information.
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Neytiri
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Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 17:46 |
I bet I've been around longer than you, Chaos. . . and you're right. Population tournaments are possible. Diplo tournaments are possible. Even a tournament for killing wildlife. Another Absa member, Hugie, ran a game wide tournament that was a kind of scavenger hunt. He posted troops with commanders whose names were clues. You scouted them to figure out the next coordinates in the race. My point is that it isn't encouraged. Why not allow me, or you, to advertise a tournament in the Herald so it's easy for people to see that its happening? Why not give me, or you, a venue to post statistics on who's winning, etc.? My suggestion is to make it easier for those of us who care to make the game more than it is. |
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Corwin wrote: