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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 17:34
Auro - Paragraphs are helpful to organize ideas too.  :)

Those blocks of text lacking spacing between sentences or organized thoughts into paragraphs are unintelligible.  I do not bother to read them.  I often get igms like that, too.  Those also go unread.

An author is asking the reader to commit the reader's time so the author should respect the reader enough to write intelligibly.

Foreign language difficulties rest with the non-English speaker as Illy has English as its official language.

We all make spelling and grammar errors.  But writers should take a little effort to adhere to basic composition rules.  There is too much "stream of consciousness" writing and writing missives as if they are 1 sentence text messages.  "how r u?" works as a text msg, but a wall of text in that style is garbage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 17:32
noting here that there still seems to be little evidence of a great player exodus as a result of the war.  Sloter uses 10 (the roundest of numbers) to describe departures from VIC.  there is no information on others who may have left for other reasons, and even a 10% churn over six months does not seem excessive to me.

does anyone (Luna?) have the player population on the eve of the war?  comparing that to the current number of players in illyriad might be the closest we can come to settling the issue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 16:08
(Okay, is there a language that doesn't use spaces and formating?  Because that's the biggest issue really.)

On topic: yeah guys, kiss and make up. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 15:59
OK, in an attempt to try and bring this thread back to something like the thread title, and to hopefully steer people away from using the forum as a podium for odium....let's try and talk about some positives.

I think an earlier post mentioned how the War had opened peoples eyes and revealed certain elements of the game previously unappreciated.

What do people think these are?  What do each side believe the other side did well?

Personally (I was Consone), my involvement in the War was limited - not through lack of desire, but simple geography.  I actually enjoyed the War (mostly) because it taught me things about the game mechanics that were not previously obvious to me.  It also acted to bring members of our alliance (and other alliances) closer together in cooperation - there were of course some exceptions to this; some players did leave the game/alliance citing the War and its propaganda as the reason, others simply went quiet (which is their prerogative , and I won't judge).

As I mentioned above, the effect of geography was highlighted for me.  Simply being located a large distance away from the main alliance hubs has an enormous effect - making you less reactive, and prone to speculative forays into the theatre of war.  I would imagine now that most alliances will be looking at the distribution of their players with a view to consolidating where they can.  At one point in the War, I did suggest that Consone look to restructuring the constituent alliances into consolidated hubs to make us better able to focus our strength in key areas.  Unfortunately, at that point in the War, such a logistically and administratively onerous task was unlikely to happen - but if done earlier on, it might have changed things (IMHO).  What are the Coalition's thoughts on this?

Another (now obvious) learning for me (having not participated in a war before), was the role of different troop types.  For example, I hadn't appreciated that offensive troops would be used mostly in defensive action and vice versa (i.e. Cavalry to break sieges, Spears/Bows to defend sieges).

The placement of cities also plays a big part.  A sieged city surrounded by plains can quickly and effectively be aided by allies with fast moving cavalry.  Having a building next to your city is inviting a siege to land there - and can only be effectively removed by slower moving infantry.

As far as the opposition goes, I was impressed by their military readiness and organisation.  We were not prepared for a war.  Prior to the War, our focus was on trade and learning - most members had a certain level of defensive troops, and perhaps a few more offensive troops with us being in the middle of a tournament.  H? did not participate in that tournament up to the start of the War (I think an earlier post from KP gives a reason why) - how much did that help once War did break out, if at all?

At some points, it seemed that H? members did not sleep, with constant activity at all times of the day.  Are you all really insomniacs, or do you have an organised system of sitters?

Finally, a lot of people dedicated much time and effort for their respective sides during the War (from my point of view I think of the likes of Sloter), and I think whatever side we're on, we should applaud and appreciate that dedication.

At the end of the day, the War was just a rearrangement of 1's and 0's on a server somewhere.  It killed nobody and it cost nobody their homes (unless they really went mad on prestige).

Positive and conciliatory responses to this post are invited. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 14:53
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

How am I supposed to know he is not a native English speaker?
It would simpler Kumo. If you just apologised.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 13:55
How am I supposed to know he is not a native English speaker?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 07:32
Ele goes to grammer classes
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[08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility
<KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 06:20
+1 Sloter, poor form Kumo regards the grammar, but I agree with you both in moving on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 17:27
Lets, i am all for that.If you send me igm on some foreign language that you speak/write as well as i use english which is not my language i will then feel ashamed about my grammar speling  :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 17:21
Originally posted by Sloter Sloter wrote:

You are wrong Kumo.I did get over it, nor do i mind for most of those that who have left the game(with few exceptions) because now we see who we can count on in times of need.Only reason i am making posts is because i see that more and more people are saying strange stuff.First it was said that nobody has quit agme cos of war, then when it was proven that many did it was said that they could have just switched alliances.I have only made posts as reply to those desinformation.I knew that somebody will call me whining baby for simply saying that some things are not true :).I only recognize need to say few facts when they are contested by others and i will continue to do so when ever i think that reputation of my alliance is at stake.I belive that you do same for your alliance?As for caring for welfare of Illy my alliance has proven that when we fought to remove sieges sent on our confeds because they refused to pay ransom.That is indeed telling.


Ok. I think I understand what you mean in this grammatical morass that is a stream of consciousness. And good! I'm glad you are over losing 10 members. Let's move on.
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