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HATHALDIR 
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Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Location: Adelaide
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 Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 08:50 |
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Before a moderator gets on here, let me remind everyone what the topic is' Consone has appointed Manannan as the person who is handling peace for us, i will trust he will do his best to meet his task mustering his not inconsiderable skills in diplomacy. If you want to postulate, trash talk and denigrate other people or discuss the current state of war, please do so on another Forum topic, lets leave this one for its original intention, one that is meant to be non-inflammatory
Thankyou
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There's worse blokes than me!!
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Deranzin
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Joined: 10 Oct 2011
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 08:33 |
 Ander wrote:
If you have separate terms for each alliance, please send them all through Hathaldir. If you want to settle terms with Absa and want to continue battling our allies, shove that idea down your throat.
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Ander wrote:
If I could betray my friends behind their back, pay our enemies whatever they ask for in terms of gold and crafted equipment, and "get back to the game we like", I would be in Dark Empire, not Absa. Thanks for your suggestion though. |
It is apparent that diplomacy is not your strong point (two posts, two insults, nice ratio :p ), but the obvious question is "if your friends want to talk peace or drop from the fight, aren't you in fact betraying them with your persistence on a war in which you do not even have objectives .?."
Maybe YOU do not mind losing all your cities, but the members of the alliance you lead AND your friends DO MIND. Have you ever thought of that or are you so engrosed into your sense of honor that you fail to consider that what you think is not necessarily shared with all your allies or friends .?.
Speaking of allies, another question is "what is left of the original Consone since many (if not most) of the alliances in the birth of Consone either disbanded or changed leaders .?."
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Hadus
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Joined: 28 Jun 2012
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 05:30 |
Kumomoto wrote:
[QUOTE=Daufer]
Not that we are unhappy with our 10:1 kill ratio, but the next couple months will show a much, much higher city loss ratio. Watch.
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What is this, Call of Duty? 
Edited by Hadus - 06 Feb 2013 at 05:30
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Mr Damage
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 05:06 |
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Thought it was pretty simple as HATH stated, you want to negotiate settlement, talk to Mana, if not, don't bother. Threaten all you like, no-one is arguing any foreseen outcomes here and like Ander I don't care to lose everything, it is most likely the outcome. We believe in our defunct Consone entity as you repeatedly wish to slander it and we believe in its purpose, just as we believe the Coalition to be an opportunistic collaboration secretly arranged to maintain a hold on the direction of the game. I don't begrudge you that, I just don't believe it is the best way, opinions differ and so we are at war. So talk to Mana or don't, he is the contact point for Consone, apart from that carry on with whatever you want.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 04:58 |
Daufer wrote:
At this point you may as well just ask yourselves:
(A) "Do we want to drag on for the next couple of months while our enemies systematically raze our cities, exterminate our population, eviscerate our military and cripple our economy while hoping that eventually they tire of pounding on us and let us go back to playing the game we like"
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(B) "Do we just surrender now and let them demolish some cities, eliminate most of our army, pay them whatever they ask for in terms of gold and crafted equipment, and get back to playing the game we like right now"
Honestly those are your best options, and neither is good. Harmless? probably prefers that you go with option (A) because this is more interesting than a tournament. This is fun for them, and the longer you drag it out the more enjoyment they are getting for their time and money. The alternative is a coordinated all-in offensive against Harmless? to take them out of the fight, which even if it succeeds will still leave you so weak that their allies and anyone else with a grievance will eat you alive. The odds of this ending well for you are not getting better. |
What an interesting perspective. What makes you think "a coordinated all-in offensive against Harmless? to take them out of the fight" would actually work? we have not used almost any of our offensive forces... I hope Soup tries it... it will let lots of armies who have been complaining get some exercise... What the members of Consone have not even begun to fathom is that we have not even started to effectively coordinate amongst Coalition allies to date nor retasked our cities for real war... We at H? are still on the same footing we were at in October. That ends today. The order has gone out for all H? cities to be put on war footing... Not that we are unhappy with our 10:1 kill ratio, but the next couple months will show a much, much higher city loss ratio. Watch.
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The_Dude
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Joined: 06 Apr 2010
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 04:35 |
Consider if all consone alliance leaders each, individually, approached H? for terms. Then, privately among themselves, discussed their alternatives. I note that the Coalition considers the concept of "Consone Leadership" as non-existent. So by all the consone alliance leaders dealing with Coalition at once with a common goal, perhaps ...
meh...
I dunno. Good luck.
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Ander
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 03:57 |
It will take me 6 months to reach 9 cities starting anew, and the war is already in its 5th month. I understand you and HonoredMule consider yourselves such scary and fearsome folks, but there is nothing you can threaten us with so. The worst you can possibly do is to destroy my cities once, that is all.
If I could betray my friends behind their back, pay our enemies whatever they ask for in terms of gold and crafted equipment, and "get back to the game we like", I would be in Dark Empire, not Absa. Thanks for your suggestion though.
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Sisren
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Joined: 03 Feb 2012
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 02:44 |
Daufer wrote:
... The alternative is a coordinated all-in offensive against Harmless? to take them out of the fight, which even if it succeeds will still leave you so weak that their allies and anyone else with a grievance will eat you alive. The odds of this ending well for you are not getting better.
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I like to think we are a bit more how shall we say, coordinated? than this? Seriously, we try to communicate openly and in real time. This as a likelihood is not likely for a given RPN...
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HATHALDIR
Forum Warrior
Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Location: Adelaide
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Points: 380
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 02:17 |
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If you want to deal with each alliance individually, thats fine also, just do it through Mana!
Or if peace is of no interest to you, lets us know so we can stop bugging you!
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There's worse blokes than me!!
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Daufer
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Joined: 14 Jun 2011
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 00:42 |
At this point you may as well just ask yourselves:
(A) "Do we want to drag on for the next couple of months while our enemies systematically raze our cities, exterminate our population, eviscerate our military and cripple our economy while hoping that eventually they tire of pounding on us and let us go back to playing the game we like"
or
(B) "Do we just surrender now and let them demolish some cities, eliminate most of our army, pay them whatever they ask for in terms of gold and crafted equipment, and get back to playing the game we like right now"
Honestly those are your best options, and neither is good. Harmless? probably prefers that you go with option (A) because this is more interesting than a tournament. This is fun for them, and the longer you drag it out the more enjoyment they are getting for their time and money. The alternative is a coordinated all-in offensive against Harmless? to take them out of the fight, which even if it succeeds will still leave you so weak that their allies and anyone else with a grievance will eat you alive. The odds of this ending well for you are not getting better.
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