Consone Appointment

Yup, that's what I thought, too.  Consone has nothing to offer in exchange for changed terms.

Hora, you defined your strategic goals and you are acting in contradiction to those goals.  This is not rational.  Are you truly irrational?  Or did you not truthfully state your strategic goals?

OH!  WOW!  Brain-flash!

Consone is playing Rope-a-Dope on the Coalition!  Watch out, Coalition.  Consone floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.  

... I had full respect for most Coalition players, including you...

...All we can offer, is a negotitation, where both sides can leave with respect. We offered to negotiate about anything you want, but wanted to keep our diplomacy...

...H? refuses talks about that (as about anything, obviously)...

...We want to stay alive AS CONSONE... that's what you don't want to allow, for reasons unknown...

...Why should we want to play a game, where we aren't allowed diplomacy and never actually wanted to act militarilly? Even traders might want confeds...

...Consone alliances are friends to each other, and we asked for negotiations with the Coalition, hoping for them to act like gentlemans...

...I fear I was mistaken...

...all we found was glee...

...I want to thank Manannan for his willingness to negotiate, sadly I fear it won't be needed...

...kindest regards to any other players trying to talk sense in this forums...

...congrats, TD and others, you definitly proved me wrong...in thinking there would be some honour left...

...last entry in this partly amusing, but to the end highly disapointing thread...  .

OK, maybe things have changed in the last few months...BUT, Have you been told that you may _never_ NAP/Confed with the other alliances _AFTER_ all warring parties have complied with the other terms?

As I understand, no one cares about Consone as an entity.  However, since Consone began with no central leadership and no control over its membership, then the Coalition reasonably concluded that each member alliance must seek a separate peace.  Naturally, like VICX and ROADS, each member that makes a separate peace MUST severe NAP/Confed for the _duration of the war_ with the Consone still at war.  I have not heard, and maybe I am out of the loop, that y'all are forever forbidden from NAP/Confed _AFTER_ everyone has made peace.

For example, If VICX and ROADS have completed their respective terms, it is my understanding that those 2 alliances could Confed again.  

If I am correct in my understanding, then this is simply a matter of misunderstanding and not something requiring negotiation.

I know when MK was the "target", no one on the other side ever said MK had to disband.  In fact, just the opposite.

All I got until now, was the reluctance of talking to Consone as an entity, even when we proposed Hath and Jasche as spokesmen. Reason as I understood it, was that H? wanted Consone to be in pieces...

There was pretty little info on that, as Vicx and Roads seemed to be not allowed to talk about terms, but cancelled all diplomatics...