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Points: 979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 01:37
I feel this is a valid question that deserves a response.
Originally posted by Bonaparta Bonaparta wrote:

Why didn't he siege his alt town, while alt was still active?
If you suspend one account, you can instantly begin preparing new cities to assimilate...  (~_~)

Silent/Steadfast - you must see how sketchy this all looks (>.<)  Why did you even suspend your account if it was legit? 

Originally posted by Silent/Steadfast Silent/Steadfast wrote:

I mentioned on GC that Steady was getting suspended BEFORE it happened, to my knowledge the GMs do not warn a player before they suspend an account. 

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Points: 553 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 00:32
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I never suggested that you were breaking a game rule.  I said I think what you are doing is unethical.  I still believe that.  I think you should do the right thing and stop attempting to claim any rights over these cities.  Perhaps you might even encourage competition for them.  If you won in open competition, then ethical questions would be moot.

Any player can break the rules I have set in the start of this post.  It is up to them, and I will use common sense to deal with them as I see fit.  It is a sandbox game, practically the online definition of an "open competition".
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Points: 380 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 00:31
It doesn't have to be in this forum, I seem to recall Ncrow getting pissy when someone tried to siege one of their inactives who wasn't coming back to illu.
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Points: 6903 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 00:29
Subatoi, see my post above where I make a distinction between claiming a city as alliance property vs. laying claim to a player's former account after one has (voluntarily or involuntarily) suspended it.
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Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I never suggested that you were breaking a game rule.  I said I think what you are doing is unethical.  I still believe that.  I think you should do the right thing and stop attempting to claim any rights over these cities.  Perhaps you might even encourage competition for them.  If you won in open competition, then ethical questions would be moot.

"ahem"

So it's unethical to attempt to absorb former cities but it is ok to absorb cities that were part of an alliance at one point, for a member to use for their gain?

pfft.

Have at it SS


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Originally posted by SunStorm SunStorm wrote:

I accessed your post on the history of E/A (http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/the-history-of-wn-warriors-of-the-new_topic3390_post41827.html#41827) and you mention that E/A has had trouble in the past with staying within their defined boundary. 

Now, in a previous post, you said the word "Fremen" ("Titanium Tower, the lesser of the two fremen cites . . .").  


That history was of W.N.  E/A has no affiliation with this alliance.  It is an alliance that ceases to exist. "Fremen" refers to the fact that the city is in the fremorn territory.  The city that is in close proximity to Cobalt Castle was settled there after steady was suspended.  It has 7 population, and is currently being diplomatically dealt with.  
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I never suggested that you were breaking a game rule.  I said I think what you are doing is unethical.  I still believe that.  I think you should do the right thing and stop attempting to claim any rights over these cities.  Perhaps you might even encourage competition for them.  If you won in open competition, then ethical questions would be moot.
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I have never had more than two accounts at one time, anyone saying so is not deserving of a response, given the absurdity of their proposition.  Even though it isn't deserving of one, and explanation is here:

I am fully aware that there are many theoretical things I could have been doing given the situation that I'm in now.  However, the proposition that "the wrong account got banned" is absurd.  I mentioned on GC that Steady was getting suspended BEFORE it happened, to my knowledge the GMs do not warn a player before they suspend an account.  

The proposition that what I am doing is "wrong" is also absurd, given that I have been able to enforce the original points of this post to an extent that I am satisfied with.  This is a sandbox. Therefore, the GMs rules are the only ones that are absolute.  I hope that the rules set forth by me will be followed, however if they are not I may or may not choose to enforce them, due to my self preservation instinct.  I claim these cities, until I do not.  I still claim them.  Although ethics are a wonderful thing- especially in this game- I am not breaking any of the game rules. 
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lol @ this whole thing 
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Should have probably kept this issue away from the public view if you planned to recapture. No matter how well you word this story it will always seem "shady". Sad turn of events SS.

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