Claims of Ignoration of Claims |
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KillerPoodle
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It's always fun watching Haly tie himself in knots trying to reconcile his current political position of the day with his previous and opposite one... :)
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abstractdream
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For those not following along...
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Halcyon
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You guys crack me up. Try to read my words for a change.
1) I never supported any land claim and until Jejune yesterday posted the link to that old thread was not even aware of Dark's past land claim. It was a long time ago and most if not all of the players who made that land claim do not play anymore. They certainly are not part of Dark Shade leadership. 2) What we did in the Coalition-Consone war, in which I was part of Dark's leadership, was not related to land claims. It was war and KP knows much more than me why that war started. I was just the military leader in that war and when Dark's political leader at the time and my friend (Sisren) told me to go to war, I went. We can continue this dance until we tire oursleves, but you won't find anything in my past that supports land claims. Cheers.
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Gragnog
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Would be nice to hear from Sisren w.r.t. these claims.
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twilights
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well sis left and went to harm....komp left and went to V-crow....duro just lost support...we tried a merger with WOT...one leader before was chased out of game...the alliance became full of permasats ......yes I agree that in a way you personally didn't support land claims and your leadership enhanced dark empires failure in establishing and maintaining ours....I would also like to point out that successful alliances are made up of players and not just leaders complete control ....I hate to say this but it appears that dark leadership was not playing the same strategy as dark membership which is one reason that it doesn't exist any more but definitely dark empire played land claim strategy....i was wondering if dark shade are all on the same page...do other members care to respond?
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abstractdream
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As I see them, land claims are, in part an attempt to avoid the situation wherein cities have to removed from hub territory during war. Alliances that provoke by landing cities within claims seem to be more interested in control than the freedom they purport.
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Halcyon
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Well you looked at the map and said: I like this place, I'll write a message in the forums and say it is mine. It does not matter to me that it is empty. It's mine. I'll write a message in the forums and from this moment onward no one else but me can place his cities there. it's mine.
I look at the map and say: I like this place, I'll let my friends know that it is good and that we should start placing our cities there. It's even quite empty so we can place cities there and still respect the space of our neighbors. One of my friends reads the forums and says: I like this place, but it is claimed. Someone wrote a message in the forums. I say: I don't care what someone wrote in the forums. We are hurting no one by placing our cities there. Why should we let others restrict us because they wrote a message in the forums?
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Brandmeister
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Presumably for the same reason you would comply with any other forum declaration: because you find the promised consequence to be unpalatable, and you believe there is a reasonable chance that the declaring party can make that consequence into reality, even against your wishes.
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twilights
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gosh halcyon I am going to call you out on this...in last war we cleared out a whole area for exclusive expansion of dark empire....I gave chance for main and alt accounts to move but all permasats were seiged out....it was more than the dated silly ten square rule and was basically an expansion of the dark empire land claim....I might be wrong but were you not in leadership or was that durotan or kompanion? it wasn't Skype so plans definitely were discussed in ac and dlords and harm were on the receiving end...I suggest you review the past but there is nothing wrong in turning a new leaf and changing strategy but you shouldn't tarnish dark empires history by changing the facts....dark empire definitely played land claim strategy....the question should remain why the change of strategy? what exactly is dark shade or their proxy alliance up to in broken lands and are they establishing a dark empire strategy while making sin look like the bad guys???y
Edited by twilights - 29 Jul 2015 at 22:11 |
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Pico
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Twi, which alliance is a proxy for Dark Shade?
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