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LET IT BE KNOWN HENCEFORCE:

WoT is in direct OPPOSITION to the demarcation of ANYTHING posted by ANYONE other than WOT on the map. Our issue is with LAND CLAIMERS ONLY.

There is no need for a public service announcement from WoT, our policy is on our alliance page -- as is any land claiming alliance.

This is all getting to be a bit irritating and what YOU will do on behalf of WoT. The map is YOUR doing and we ask for no posting by anyone that is not WoT.

Any posting HERE or marked on the map is in direct conflict with our wishes to have a demarcation on the map.
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Originally posted by Jejune Jejune wrote:

The map is meant as a public service announcement to help direct players in settling cities in the broken lands. For as long as an alliance has a policy in place that is restrictive in who can settle where, it is going to be included on the map.

I shall post on the MAP page, that WoT is in direct OPPOSITION to the demarcation of ANYTHING posted by ANYONE other than WOT on the map. Our issue is with LAND CLAIMERS ONLY.

There is no need for a public service announcement from WoT, our policy is on our alliance page -- as is any land claiming alliance.

This is all getting to be a bit irritating and what YOU will do on behalf of WoT. The map is YOUR doing and we ask for no posting by anyone that is not WoT.
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The map is meant as a public service announcement to help direct players in settling cities in the broken lands. For as long as an alliance has a policy in place that is restrictive in who can settle where, it is going to be included on the map.

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Make no marks on the map --- on behalf of WoT. Please and TYVM
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Thanks, Janders. I think I understand the policy -- it makes total sense to me.

The reason I am asking is that I think that because the WoT policy restricts settlement of one very specific type of player (in this case, a player in a land claim alliance) from settling in one of WoT's large cluster of cities, that your large clusters could be demarcated on the land claim map. It wouldn't be marked as a "land claim" but rather as a "zone," similar to TVM's no-claim zone. This needs to be done so that the 300+ players in land claim alliances are able to access the map and see where they are ill-advised to settle. Does this make sense?

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Jejune, we mean this in a case-by-case basis.  Just a VERY hypothetical example--
(1) HYPOTHETICALLY, SIN claims Fellandire, and despite WoT having cities on the border / a few squares within, states we don't have the right to harvest or expand around those cities.
(2) HYPOTHETICALLY, WoT has a large cluster of cities (say 45) spread around Farshards outside of the SIN claim. However SIN has 5 cities mixed into this area, which they plan of leaving there and using to harvest aggressively.  

We would be AGAINST this arrangement.  We are against LC in general, but especially if you are going to kick us out of an area and tell us not to harvest there, but then leave cities of your own outside of your claim and harvest amongst us.  Certainly we don't mind random people settling within our loose clusters, and harvesting as they see fit as friendly neighbors.  But if you are going to restrict our livelihood, crafting, hunting and trade, we will feel free to do the same in return.

Now all of this is quite hypothetical, we don't have clusters of cities next to SIN and SIN doesn't have cities amongst our cluster stealing our earth salts ;)
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There is no stretching out to assume new boundaries by LC's placing cities near WOT. If WOT is not allowed it's free access without hostilities INSIDE a land claim, then expect the same near any WOT player.

LC's have marked their territory. We don't feel they should have both when near WOT players/or WOT clusters.


Edited by Diva - 08 Jul 2015 at 15:29
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Originally posted by Diva Diva wrote:

  • If LC's insists on land claiming we will insist you move any LC cities into your "region". We won't accept cities of LC near where WoT resides and harvests and will target them for removal.

Thank you for posting your land claim policy, Diva! This is a great policy and should really further enrich the land claim experiment in the Broken Lands. 

For the point above, can you clarify the area that constitutes "where WoT resides and harvests?" The way you've currently described this is unclear, and players in land claiming alliances need to have exact boundaries so as to avoid conflict by settling in an area too close to your no-land-claimers-allowed claim.

Thanks! 

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LAND CLAIM POLICY OF GREY..........Do what you want, we don't care either way.
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Wheel of Time Statement on Land Claims

LAND CLAIM POLICY OF Wheel of Time

  • WoT is against all land claims(LC) and WoT does not recognize land claims to prevent settling, growth, or harvesting anywhere in Illyriad.
  • We do respect and agree to the 10sq rule and parked armies but not land claiming whole regions.  
  • If LC's insists land claiming, you will be in conflict with WoT and our players who will settle and or settled in your Land Claim. 
  • If LC's insists on land claiming we will insist you move any LC cities into your "region". We won't accept cities of LC near where WoT resides and harvests and will target them for removal.
  • WoT members will settle where they wish as long as not in 10sq's of other players cities.
  • WoT will defend our players from any hostile action.
  • WoT will never agree to pay any type of tax or agreement to settle in any region. WoT feels that is extortion.
  • If LC's spreads land claims to those regions not already stated, now and in the future will be met with equal force to stop the spread of Land Claims that in effect closes off parts to Wot members and/or Illyriad.


Edited by Diva - 08 Jul 2015 at 01:28
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