Claims of Ignoration of Claims

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 Janders wrote:

Jejune, we mean this in a case-by-case basis.  Just a VERY hypothetical example--(1) HYPOTHETICALLY, SIN claims Fellandire, and despite WoT having cities on the border / a few squares within, states we don't have the right to harvest or expand around those cities.
(2) HYPOTHETICALLY, WoT has a large cluster of cities (say 45) spread around Farshards outside of the SIN claim. However SIN has 5 cities mixed into this area, which they plan of leaving there and using to harvest aggressively.  

We would be AGAINST this arrangement.  We are against LC in general, but especially if you are going to kick us out of an area and tell us not to harvest there, but then leave cities of your own outside of your claim and harvest amongst us.  Certainly we don't mind random people settling within our loose clusters, and harvesting as they see fit as friendly neighbors.  But if you are going to restrict our livelihood, crafting, hunting and trade, we will feel free to do the same in return.

Now all of this is quite hypothetical, we don't have clusters of cities next to SIN and SIN doesn't have cities amongst our cluster stealing our earth salts ;)

Let me expand on this Say Alliance A has claimed a region next to WoT we have no cities in that region. BUT they have a few cities in Ainoara, where we have cities. What would stop Alliance A claiming a second region as their alliance expands and needs more harvest able location so then WoT would either have to go bow to this alliance demands to settle in a region we've been, be kicked out or go to war. 

Seeing as how WoT as a whole is against land claims and won't avoid region's where there are some, and will defend members right's to settle anywhere (out side of 10sq radius of course), and will use ALL  means to defend our right to do so. How this makes use grey i don't know as we not saying we're against land claims but will just stay in our location's we are actively settling where members want to and informed alliance's close to use that if they stick to their land claims it will bring them in to conflict with us.

Also we don't believe alliance's should be able to have their cake and eat it as the saying goes if you want a region to your self you should

Be able to defend and enforce such claim
If blocking others from a region you should stay in that region and not be surprised others are hostile to you trying to have a land claimed region. While still settling freely everywhere else, this is a double standard and we're pointing it out it's a double said. 

Edited by King korr - 08 Jul 2015 at 17:19