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Originally posted by Jejune Jejune wrote:

Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:

as I remember it there was never a Land Claim by the Dark Empire and I would like to see evidence to the contrary. 

Actually, DARK did have a land claim, and posted in the forums. It's not easy to read because the text is in white on white, but if you highlight it you can see it: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/writ-of-notice-dark-empire_topic3214_page1.html

I find their claim model interesting in how it centers around the capital. Sisren I think was very ahead of his time.

I stand corrected. I was probably a member of Dark at the time, but not leadership.
My friend at the time, Sisren, sure had a way with words Clap.
I'll hazard again and say that to my knowledge (again) this land claim was never enforced or challenged outside of the forums.
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Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:

as I remember it there was never a Land Claim by the Dark Empire and I would like to see evidence to the contrary. 

Actually, DARK did have a land claim, and posted in the forums. It's not easy to read because the text is in white on white, but if you highlight it you can see it: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/writ-of-notice-dark-empire_topic3214_page1.html

I find their claim model interesting in how it centers around the capital. Sisren I think was very ahead of his time.


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Originally posted by twilights twilights wrote:

halc as we were both members of dark empire which made a land claim several years ago I was wondering why not make a land claim? don't you think that land claim would make the game more interesting than the old fashioned dated method of using the 10 square rule?

Twi, as I remember it there was never a Land Claim by the Dark Empire and I would like to see evidence to the contrary. I do remember you always wanting something similar to a land claim and me always saying no.
In my view, an alliance can achieve the effect of a land claim by placing cities in one location in a concentrated, coordinated effort by all members. There is no need for a proclamation of Land Claim. The alliances who proclaimed their land claims have simply chosen the easy method, saying: Hey that's mine, you keep your hands off it. Some of them have done so even if the designated geographical space is actually quite empty. The result is a wide part of the map in Broken Lands which is in theory inaccessible to most players.
To this date there is ONE land claimer alliance who successfully protected their claim and in essence managed to turn theory into reality. All other claimers are far from being SIN's equals. It will be interesting to see them enforce their land claims in the future.


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It is not the Land Claims that have made the game more interesting, it is the people who are bored and decided to cook up a dispute to have fun. Hats off to Pico for starting something. I do believe however had he ignored the land claim issue and just said "Hey, I am going to fight SIN" he would have gotten a lot more people to join and even more fun would have been had. Lets face it, the people who are complaining about the land claims are not really interested in making the game any more interesting or dynamic, but would prefer for it to continue on its way as it has always been. If things change too much and people realize that it can be a fun place to play they will have nothing to keep bitching to the GM's about.
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halc as we were both members of dark empire which made a land claim several years ago I was wondering why not make a land claim? don't you think that land claim would make the game more interesting than the old fashioned dated method of using the 10 square rule? already land claims have created a lot of action in a game that was becoming very stale and I don't believe the 10 square rule was causing much interest as it is mainly accepted....isn't it the duty of leaders in alliances to provide situations to create excitement in the game? I believe that establishing land claims might be in this realm and I am asking what others
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Originally posted by Diva Diva wrote:

What an EYE opener!! Beyljr!?!? you operate out of NS, a WOT based affiliate!?!? and claim --- And we are asking that you not try to restrict the way that we operate.

So all that we were thinking is true (and allowable), you represent both sides of the fence, well one side. I don't know your alt, but I know where the Beyljr account is.

 ... very revealing I must say.



 
I just learned that ~NS~ is now a WOT affiliate. LOL

Beyljr, don't forget you operate under ~NS~ a WOT affiliate.. watch your words. Tongue
Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day.

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No reason to sov so much as the cost will be great and we can have no benefits from more than 20 squares.
Making a homeland is possible and not too hard using the 10 square convention: make sure that your towns are settled in 1 central location and close to each other. Even spaced 5 squares from each other, you can get all the sov you need. There are at least 2 alliances in BL that are doing this: the first, SIN, who added a land claim to an already well settled and established homeland; the second, Sojourn.


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Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

That's a silly argument. 150 squares cannot cover the current 10 square radius. Are you suggesting that people need to give up the 10 square rule because they can't sov the entire area?


hmm...the cheapest 150 squares makes a radius 7...blob. If two towns each did that and faced each other, they would have to be 15 apart. Maybe we need the 15 square rule! :o As long as we all only sov 100, I think we may be safe-it is hard to easily pay for much more than 100 anyways.

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Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

150 squares cannot cover the current 10 square radius.
it would only have to cover a 5-square radius to enforce the spirit of the 10-square rule.
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That's what he's saying...lol
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