Carried over from Nokigon's thread

Theres no backpedal - simply stating the same tactics you have used before are now being played back to you- probably more harsh, but such things are bound to happen when you were the largest alliance in illy for years. W.e I choose to say and do in the sandbox is done on my own accord- Ditto is just the guy you need to talk to if you decide you wanna keep a few more cities

Deranzin- I like the way you twist things to make yourself look better. H? taught you well in that regard. This will also be the last time I address any post made by you as you have become the new forum troll. Anyone that can read can see what my words are- you can see they havent been edited- and they can also see your ignorance in the way you try and twist things. Good luck in rebuilding. Try not to "run away from the game" like apparently so many others have had to do- since according to H? propaganda machine thats the way the war has gone. 

KP, Harmless? has repeatedly acknowledged that they had a spy in EE during the Consone War. How do we know that it wasn't your spy that broke the ceasefire that Hath and Turgor had negotiated with you guys just to give you the pretext of continuing the war?

Caconafyx wrote: Deranzin. We removed Kleavor from EE at the beginning of the Consone War as his cities were close to the H? heartland at the time. The same goes for Bert Almighty.... just saying.

Ehm, but we are not talking about the beginning of the war ... had I been removed back then and not participated at all, sure, I do not disagree that I would most likely not have been a target ... but at the start of this war I was not initially in an isolated place ( strategic map changed during the passage of time ) in order to deem myself either a non-factor or totally useless in the conflict so as to even consider removing myself from it ... so, I was an active participant, with some quite good ratios imho (considering the battles I got into) and as such, I estimated that they wouldn't let me go easily either way, so I chose to fight when at full pop and have some fun as well.

And as you saw that estimation didn't prove wrong since they keep hitting my sieges on abandoned accounts even in the far off place that I am now and my account already in shambles ...

Do note that I do not blame anyone for that behavior (this is a war after all), but I just point those facts out because it sure makes all those post about "necessary" actions and all that jazz, pretty lame and funny ... and I am all about fun in a game indeed

Sir A wrote: If you can't defend your cities then you can expect to lose them.  As long as you are at war that makes you a target.  And if your allies can't help you protect your cities then you should probably consider exiting the war.  Or you can stay, that is totally up to you, but don't expect your enemies to stop attacking you.

As far as I am concerned I have no problem with that, as long as they dispense with the crocodilian tears and the shows of "we do not want this or that, but we deem it necessary" which is just excuses and beautification of the situation and repeatedly shown to be a blatant lie since in all previous wars, no such necessity ever arose ... so, imho, once those particular people (by my estimation a minority in them) decide to do away with the charade and own up to their actions and choices, the whole debate will stop almost immediately ...

scaramouche wrote: I guess Deranzin must be the mouth piece for H? as he always seems to have the most to say on any subject about this war from that alliance?

Nope ... I just have the less things to do nowadays from that alliance ahahhaahah

apart from that I am just a simple member and I have said so a gazzillion times ... if I had a dollar for every "imho" I have written and you guys ignored, I would have been quite rich indeed