Approve of new log in?

Art is art... I reckon it could have been more appropriate but since when do guys take notice of the sensibilities of females?  and yes Manannan without your comment on the fact I would indeed have just shut the thread again in disgust!!! and no I won't vote!! 

I totally agree with creature's post.

Edited by bartimeus - 28 May 2011 at 14:46

Arent we being a little touchy - the artwork IS masterfull, cant really blame the artist that fantasy and sex are becoming increasingly intertwined.
How would girls feel if their representation was an overweight female bowlegged orc with bad case of a rash?
Shes attractive and Illyriad will never be anything like Evony (I did make the comparison in GC as a jest) but really, there are NO plausible grounds for making that connection.

And I think its great theres a girl on the front page, otherwise you might assume we'd be a bunch of passive aggressive bullies obsessed with asserting our power over one another - females tend to mellow that out a bit.

So really - I think doing anything else than applaud the artist great skills and rejoice that Illyriad is moving forward in development is just plain tweaky and snooty.


Edited by Tordenkaffen - 28 May 2011 at 19:31

'torden' wrote: Arent we being a little touchy - etc. So really - I think doing anything else than applaud the artist great skills and rejoice that Illyriad is moving forward in development is just plain tweaky and snooty.

Dude, you've really misinterpreted what some of us have said.

I DO appreciate good artwork (in terms of quality) and I am ALWAYS the first to offer my approval of new development and to support the dev team generally on GC etc.

The main point of my post was that I think the new artwork is entirely misrepresentative of what people can expect in Illyriad... which is CRITICAL because the portal is the first thing anyone new to Illyriad will see, before they even think about signing up.

The scantily clad nature of the female figure on the page gives it a very similar look to many other very poor RPGs/MMOs etc. churned out by big companies to milk pocket money from teenagers which will put off many more sensible players looking for a game that is interesting and different to the commercial crap out there, while at the same time attracting a whole bunch of players that will be expecting something different and who will go inactive after 3 minutes play-time - further accentuating the 'inactive cities' problem.

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'torden' wrote: And I think its great theres a girl on the front page, otherwise you might assume we'd be a bunch of passive aggressive bullies obsessed with asserting our power over one another - females tend to mellow that out a bit.

Firstly: I think that is a generalisation that both men and women mightn't be too happy with.

Secondly: Even if I believed your bit about women mellowing things out (which I don't) - it is obvious that the female on the front page wearing "a bikini" is basically just a sexual symbol and not a symbol of equality. The females on the ingame profile artwork are wearing more feasible clothing for example.


Edited by Createure - 28 May 2011 at 23:37

95% or more of the games I discover on the internet I will not create an account for - I make my judgements on these games in less than 20 seconds by glancing over their homepage.

If I see a scantily clad elf I will assume this game is like many other games that I don't like that use the same cheap advertising trick to appeal to a certain demographic - and I won't create an account.

The fact is I know Illy and it's dev team are better than that, I wouldn't have discovered that if I never made an account in the first place - am I a total exception here? I think not, looking at the poll.

Now I'm not trying to flame or kick up a fuss or anything, and I think I've laid out quite a reasoned argument - but as you can read from above: I think first impressions are VERY important which is why I kinda think this is an important issue to discuss.


Edited by Createure - 29 May 2011 at 03:36