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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Daefis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 00:26
that's a pretty compelling response.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Electrocutioner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 00:18
I am ELECTROK from Night Crusaders. I was The Electrocutioner for a year or so before changing my in-game name. My apologies, I should not take it for granted that everyone would know that. 

You can go back to making unfounded assertions that you can't back up now.
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No results for: The Electrocutioner

I simply don't care about spinsters or those who hide behind fake accounts.


Edited by Epidemic - 28 Feb 2014 at 00:14
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Electrocutioner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 2014 at 23:22
Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

Originally posted by The Electrocutioner The Electrocutioner wrote:



Really? Who are they?

I'm not saying it's not true, I just don't know of any. I am only personally aware of one player who was sieged back to the newb ring, and that player was the opposite of peaceful.



So basically you've had your head in the sand for all of the war except the last couple of days. Most of the destruction has already taken place and what is left is quickly being mopped up.
I'm not going to bother posting all the players affected, because I don't really have a clue just how bad it is, but i'm sure you can find the answers if you look hard enough.

I simply asked a question, and you respond with an accusation. You're accusing ME of having MY head in the sand, when you don't know either?

I think you are making this up. You cannot name a single player. You said yourself you don't have a clue... you're right about that.
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Originally posted by The Electrocutioner The Electrocutioner wrote:



Really? Who are they?

I'm not saying it's not true, I just don't know of any. I am only personally aware of one player who was sieged back to the newb ring, and that player was the opposite of peaceful.



So basically you've had your head in the sand for all of the war except the last couple of days. Most of the destruction has already taken place and what is left is quickly being mopped up.
I'm not going to bother posting all the players affected, because I don't really have a clue just how bad it is, but i'm sure you can find the answers if you look hard enough.
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Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

Lots of peaceful players have been sieged from the game

Really? Who are they?

I'm not saying it's not true, I just don't know of any. I am only personally aware of one player who was sieged back to the newb ring, and that player was the opposite of peaceful.
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Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:


And while I appreciate you pointing out contradictions in logic, these forums represent a great deal of brainstorming from players. There are going to be contradictions, loopholes, and logical impurities. That is not to say that the idea is wrong, but that it can be improved.  


Indeed ... Smile
and this procedure of making an idea better usually starts when someone points small (or big) issues the original ideas might have.



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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I think players need to get their heads out of the sand and actively pay attention to the siege list. Lots of peaceful players have been sieged from the game, lots more have quit in frustration or disgust.
Illy wars have changed for the worse. You need to accept this as reality and then we can try to figure out how to bring Illy back from the brink. If you think you can save Illy after destroying it you're delusional.
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Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:

The intent is surrender. Make no mistake about it. Everyone wants the war over with, except for players unwilling to compromise. 

With one side swearing destruction on it's enemies for all of eternity, the other side has 2 options, quarantine, enforce low military levels, or anihilation. 

In illyriad, quarantine is very hard to do. Permanent blockades are not effective. The only solution is to draw out a boundary line, and say if any of their troops or cities cross it, they will be destroyed. You would have to constantly monitor enemy troop movements and new settlements. 

Enforcing low military levels are also very difficult. Persistent scouting would be required to verify military levels. And you would only respond once the enemy has amassed more troops than you wanted. Meaning you are facing an army that you didn't want to face. 

Annihilation is the simpler solution. Reduce player's cities down to a minimum level. This will at least give you several months of peace while the enemy, who has promised to destroy you one day, rebuilds. 


Considering that a surrender will lead to either of the suboptimal (for the winners) choices, am I the only one seeing the contradiction here .?. Wink

The severity of the above actions are completely negotiable if there is some idea of compromise between the parties. Generally speaking the quarantine that happens after a surrender is the standard 10 square rule. Enforcing Low Military Levels could be as simple as don't attack us, as other peace treaties have stated.  

But reducing the severity of surrender terms down to those levels requires compromise. If 1 side is unwilling to compromise the other side has no choice but to play by their rules. 

And while I appreciate you pointing out contradictions in logic, these forums represent a great deal of brainstorming from players. There are going to be contradictions, loopholes, and logical impurities. That is not to say that the idea is wrong, but that it can be improved.  

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scaramouche Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 2014 at 18:42
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

 What sort of future Illy do you want, and how do your actions advance or harm that future?


Only time can answer this question.
NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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