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Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

And I say again that none of you bothered reading our posts explaining how H? works and thinks ... nothing that is happening now was not predicted by HonoredMule's post/announcement early in the war, yet you all seem so puzzled by it actually happening ... 

Here you are suggesting that you guys are smarter than your enemies, predicted events accurately when no one else could, accuse your enemies of not reading information, and then exasperate the situation by talking about how you perceive us as a bunch of puzzled individuals. 


Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:



Here is is a funny thing. I never said anything of the sort ... QUOTE ME IF YOU CAN and let us see who is doing "propaganda"

Find a quote where I said such a thing, I DARE YOU ! LOL

Or you could apologize for blatantly lying, but I do not really expect that ... ahahaahh

Condescending Rhetorical questions are defamatory by their nature. 

Or do you not understand that? 

EXAMPLE ^




Edited by geofrey - 30 Jun 2014 at 18:32

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There is really no need for all of this debate over this war.  Why over-complicate the situation for no reason? Here is what everything boils down to:

  • The war is still going on, the reasons don't matter at this point.
  • H? can accept the surrender terms or they can keep fighting.
You can cry all day about "being wiped out" but that isn't going to stop the attacks on you because you are at war.  I can see why H? thinks this war is personal but its really not for most of us.  This is my first time fighting against H?.  Every other alliance surrendered already and H? will have to do the same or keep getting attacked.  

That is all.
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Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Brids - I searched our forums to remind me of the circumstances and I found a message recorded there of an IGM from HM to Faya of Goonies in October 2010 which says (to paraphrase since direct reproduction is not allowed):

"We only plan to take one city from Gigi, that's enough. We urge you to let that be it."

Thank you for reminding me of another great example of our honor and approach to this game.

KP


Edit: It also reminded me that you were in Goonies while they were planning to siege Gigi down to nothing and that you can celebrate nearly 4 years of misguided posts against us on this very forum.

There was no honour. The plan was not to siege him out of the game and yet he was anyway. Starry stated that "H never allowed the mass destruction of entire accounts" And yet you did. Unless you mean you personally won't siege people out of the game but you're entirely okay with your allies doing it, which is hardly any better. 

Also, I left Goon (not Goonies, completely unrelated, maybe add that to you notes) because I felt it was wrong to siege him, after he was in our alliance for so long and gave so many of us huge piles of adv. resources. I felt it was a betrayal just because the almighty H? wanted to siege him. 

And KP, the quality of your posts speaks volumes for H?, you certainly don't need me getting you bad PR. You do that just fine on your own. 
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Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:

Here you are suggesting that you guys are smarter than your enemies, predicted events accurately when no one else could, accuse your enemies of not reading information, and then exasperate the situation by talking about how you perceive us as a bunch of puzzled individuals. 


I think that you are being oversensitive over the simple prediction that was recited again and again back then that the war will take at least a year ... a prediction with which most of you laughed and ridiculed at the time ...

You might not like it, but it came to pass ... is that condescending .?. Since when being right and on the spot while others laugh and scorn you, is such a thing .?. If you find a nicely written "we told you so" insulting, hey, that is your problem.

As for not reading, hey is that an accusation nowadays .?. LOL

As for being puzzled, you explain me this gazzilionth "please surrender" thread when there are already so many of those with the same things in them. "Puzzled" is quite a nice word overall actually ... Smile

Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:

Condescending Rhetorical questions are defamatory by their nature. 

Or do you not understand that? 



I'd say blatantly lying is defamatory by its nature ... then shouting about it when you are caught lying is quite another thing, but I'd let people reading characterize it on their own in case you grab on some word again and "cry wolf" yet again.

I have not deliberately insulted anyone and I have so far only recited facts ... I never called anyone "incompetent idiot" and I am still waiting for a quote on that (which you will never find because it does not exist LOL )

I find particularly amusing that you only focus on supposed insults and you pretended not to read the rest of the things I wrote ... good job ! Shows a good tactical mind for the "new fresh war" you were talking about earlier ... Wink

Too bad you won't find us in it ... hehehehe



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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So it appears that...

Side 1 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is content with the current state.
Side 2 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is content with the current state.

Why is there so much arguing if everyone is on the same page?

~Vanerin
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Originally posted by Vanerin Vanerin wrote:

So it appears that...

Side 1 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is content with the current state.
Side 2 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is content with the current state.

Why is there so much arguing if everyone is on the same page?

~Vanerin




I think that you got the states wrong ...

Side 1 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is not content with the current state.
Side 2 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is not content with the current state.

and that is not "really" the "same page" since there are arguments about willingness, what it actually takes to end the war and on which point each side is not content about ... Tongue



Edited by Deranzin - 30 Jun 2014 at 19:29



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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If they were truly discontent with the current state, the current state would change. It appears that the current state is more desirable than the alternative. And I am glad everyone can be content in the choices that they make.

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Originally posted by Vanerin Vanerin wrote:

If they were truly discontent with the current state, the current state would change. It appears that the current state is more desirable than the alternative. And I am glad everyone can be content in the choices that they make.

~Vanerin


When the alternative is far worse than the current situation, then what exactly is there to be glad about, I wonder ...



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:


I find particularly amusing that you only focus on supposed insults and you pretended not to read the rest of the things I wrote ... good job ! Shows a good tactical mind for the "new fresh war" you were talking about earlier ... Wink

Too bad you won't find us in it ... hehehehe

here you use sarcasm to insinuate a bad tactical mind. And then you further drive a wedge between us by presuming I will use my "good tacticle mind (sarcasm) to engage in a future war, that you wont join due to your superior tactical mind. 

Your are demeaning, regardless if you accept it. 

The same way you use language tools like sarcasm and rhetorical questions, I use comparative similes or metaphors like "incompetent idiots" to sum up the general verbiage used to insult people. 

I don't know why you insist on challenging the validity of my post. Your issues seem to be centered on the verbiage I use, and not on the point of my post. 

You have yet to actually respond to my main point. Instead you continue to attempt to invalidate the evidence I have presented, and you are doing it poorly. 

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Side 2 is not willing to do what it takes to end the war and is not content with the current state.

Me draws two fraction lines, does some cancelling up and down the line... 

...oops...   I got 1=1  ....  damn, probably wrong prove... back to thesis A  Geek

Sorry, really couldn't resist this trolling, seeing the sentences aligned so beautifully Embarrassed
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