An Open letter to H? rank and file

...I think I posted some possible resolution offers to this conflict quite some time ago (search them yourself, if you want)... as soon as an upper hand of GA (or whatever) was showing.

IMO those are the only 3 options left in a long enduring conflict with the atm stronger side wishing to end it.

Now here's a repeat, adjusted for the time gone in this conflict already:

GA offers surrender terms, H? accepts => War over except for those (5?) towns to be taken as reparations.

This needs the agreement of both sides, and already seems to be off the table...

GA offers surrender terms, H? declines => War goes on until one side is completely finished off...

Now here's:

GA is in the possition to take what they want. So just get them 5 towns reparation by force (or siege them to the ground and take some other from unaligned inactives). Then march away shaking your heads. 

Maybe this even fits with Siji's suggestion of GA just stopping aggresion from their side.

This only works, of course, if H? does not reattack after this onesided ceasefire => else, sadly, option 2...

just my ideas on that, do with them, what you want.

Edit:

On KP's request:

A mutual peace agreement with no terms. ....Maybe hardest to get if there is still a bit bad blood left despite the long time of fighting; and needs lots of good will from the party with the upper hand.

IMO it's still a mixture of Option 1 (with the terms being no terms) and Option 3 with the "winning" side being completly content on what they got by fighting and the other side agreeing, that it's over... but that's up to each players point of view... 

I'm a returning player who stopped playing some time ago and had quite a bit communication with individual members of H?, T? and several members of the Crow alliances, especially the leader (back then) of mCrow.

A long story short, I co-founded an orc-only alliance with Case, who later died, we continued the alliance, always remebering Case and his contributions to Illy and us personally - we grew, founded training and brother alliances (back before you could move cities that could be necessary) and when Tenandril relocation spell came online for the first time, we moved to Mal Motsha.

Problem was that so did an alliance called TMM (The Mal Motshans). TMM proceeded to say join or be sieged to us, we offered several compromises to this ultimatum, came close to a deal, and then TMM launched their attacks.

I scrambled to get support for our fledgeling alliances - I contacted everyone I could think of, everyone I had previously talked to, even just shared a couple of laughs with. DB were the first to respond, then came T?, where Starry simply couldn't stand idly by while players were sieged out of the game even though her alliance clearly stated that it would only act in a war if attacked them selves (I remember that moment fondly, where Starry, in part moved by my words, and in full moved by her integrety, sent the first troops to help defend and untold amount of FREE resources for all members in my alliance)

Starry was instrumental in moving H? to our defense as well. The leader of mCrow also moved all of the crow alliances to our defence. the crow alliances and H? proceeded to coordinate and plan the war, first to secure our survival, and after to pacify TMM - without their coordination, and the helpful software developed by HouneredMoule, my alliance would probaply not have survived the war, but H?, T? and the crow alliances put all their differences aside and worked together in unison.

As the war progressed and TMM's aggression was first halted, then the pressure put on them, we kept contacting them asking for them respond and start negotiating a surrender as they couldn't possibly win - they chose not to respond.

Unfortunately this became common knoweledge and suddenly the war turned into a free for all where all sorts of alliances started sieging down TMM and its members to get those "free cities" - this was not condoned, nor done by H?, T? or Crow members (nor my self or my own members, despite us clearly being rampaging orcs)

It saddens me to now see these great alliances, who all came together to stop other players from being sieged out of the game, now at each others throats.

It saddens me to hear of players sieged out of the game - and the aggressors not even responding to this in any meaningful way.

It saddens me to hear see so many rocks thrown at each other in the forum, when most of them, on both sides, lives in glass houses.

Now I realize that my mentioning Starry in such a positive light will mean that this post will most likely be wieved as "for H?" - but I mentioned it simply because it was a defining moment in my diplomatic efforts to get support for my alliance.

I hope this might remind you ALL of who you were, and may even still be (haven't been back long enough to know for sure) and remind you all what you all did together, and how much it meant to me, and the many players in mine and others alliances.

Everyone take a deep breath - the first casuality in war is always the truth, noone has the full picture, nor monopoly on "what really happened".

Sincerely Nvp

A curiously wellspoken orc