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Originally posted by DeliciousJosh DeliciousJosh wrote:

Well I hope other players than KP will post on H's behalf. So far he is not doing a very good job, especially with the taunting:


You say this but Hath's very first sentence to me when he reached out was a taunt about Kumo so I'll expect you guys to do the same for Hath.


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^^And that is the point where you step away from the computer.
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Holding anger is a poison...It eats you from inside...We think that by hating someone we hurt them...But hatred is a curved blade...and the harm we do to others...we also do to ourselves.” 
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I am biased. 

After seeing H? manipulate stuff a millionth time I am not the person to ask what is fair anymore. 

However, I can state facts. 

In the great Trove war all Consone members had the option of accepting the surrender terms, or to be continued to be sieged untill they did. 

There was nothing subtle about that. 

(I was going to stick to facts, but to me, the fact that consone members/leaders in the end decided to agree with the surrender terms showed that they cared for their memembers. Even if they knew that H? had provoced this war. )

Ok ... back to facts...

In the great Trove war the people defeated chose to surrender to prevent further harm for their members. 

H? is given a similar option. 

Debate all you like, and wish that other people would see the right of your side, sometimes you just need to swallow your pride and get on with life. 

Really... there is no debating the inevitable. And sure, if it is your choice to let your account die in this game, then that is ok to. But don't blame others then. 

Do I want to see H? whiped out? No. 

Do I mind them getting kicked in the behind? Nope. 
A firm kick in the behind has served a lot of people well over the ages. And apparently this time it's just H?'s time. 

There is nothing simpler about this then what is stated above. The only thing that now could go wrong for the grand alliance is if they would change the terms ones H? accepted them. That would be just wrong. 

I pride myself in knowing some of these people, if only for a fraction of what they are worth. Maybe some made mistakes at times to, but then, so did H? ... fact remains...

You deal with the cards given to you. Or else, you just agree to be dealt with. 

I wish all players involved the best. 
That is one thing which is unbiased. And it is a fact.

Shadar Logoth

Ps. Even if Ditto were not playing anymore, the facts remain the same. Cry havoc if the enemy changes the terms that are offered to you. But you first have to prove them wrong. 

Who leads an alliance is, and always has been, irrelevant, unless it is a dictatorship.If the new leader sticks to his/their word their agreement is still just as solid. And one thing is sure, at the moment there is no "one" dictator leading a certain side. 

edited for spelling errors... dont kill me if u see more ... i am only 'uman


Edited by Shadar Logoth - 28 Jun 2014 at 18:15
More Orc, less talking!

All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules.
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Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I've never been fond of the whole Grand Alliance thing myself.  You may feel free to refer to us as the Axes of Good.  Or "those other guys."

The fact remains that "those other guys" have put on the table a reasonable offer.  If you don't like some aspect of it, you can reply with your own suggestion.  Wasting time demanding that dittobite post in your embassy to "prove" he is himself is an example of the arrogance that got H? into the mess it's in now.

The time for venom is past.  The time for peace is now.  I hope that you will take the olive branch that has been extended.

Jumping into a war to vulture accounts hardly merits the description of "Good", Rill,  sieging entire accounts out of a game merits another name; not keeping the agreements you made with other alliances defies description.    

Remember, H tried to avoid this war, we were given written assurances we not going to be attacked, why in the world would we accept your leadership's word now?    Your credibility is zero, your duplicity is a matter of fact, your hypocrisy is well known.  

Requesting confirmation that Ditto is in fact talking to us is not unreasonable, in fact, given the GA or *** EDIT: Do not refer to them as "the Axis of Evil" - Rikoo *** actions, it's pretty much required at this point.   You can post all you want but WE need confirmation we aren't talking to someone else.  :)     As for requiring that we talk on our forum, there just is no pleasing you; if we talk in public, we are criticized; if we request private talks, the same....make up your mind....oh wait, you already have.  

Have a good day. 




Edited by GM Rikoo - 28 Jun 2014 at 20:00
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Originally posted by asr asr wrote:

If someone mistakes me. I won't tell it to him directly, put hope that he will realize his fault by himself.

If the case is that, then i wouldn't accept the terms either.


I think both sides have misunderstood or mistaken each other many times in the past. That won't change that this offer cannot be misunderstood. It won't change that many players have left the game due to the war either. Many of the reasons for stubbornness (on both sides) is because of 'wrongdoings' 'name-calling' 'military actions' and many other things. I can understand it's hard to let go of something that you hold precious. The thing is, sooner or later things will change. You just have to decide for yourself; where am I going to be in this change?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeliciousJosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 16:43
Well I hope other players than KP will post on H's behalf. So far he is not doing a very good job, especially with the taunting: 

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"2) It might be more accurate to refer to yourselves as the "Not quite so Grand as it used to be" alliance."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 16:42
If someone mistakes me. I won't tell it to him directly, put hope that he will realize his fault by himself.

If the case is that then i wouldn't accept the terms either.
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I've never been fond of the whole Grand Alliance thing myself.  You may feel free to refer to us as the Axes of Good.  Or "those other guys."

The fact remains that "those other guys" have put on the table a reasonable offer.  If you don't like some aspect of it, you can reply with your own suggestion.  Wasting time demanding that dittobite post in your embassy to "prove" he is himself is an example of the arrogance that got H? into the mess it's in now.

The time for venom is past.  The time for peace is now.  I hope that you will take the olive branch that has been extended.
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Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

DJ - then it should be simple for him to prove it, no?

Also - given that we've reached terms with Shade & Soon and Dark has dissolved with most players going to a non-combatant we can see two things:

1) Peace is easily possible.

2) It might be more accurate to refer to yourselves as the "Not quite so Grand as it used to be" alliance.

More sniping, in lieu of actual discussion. I can see one thing:

1) You don't give two hoots about what happens to the rest of your alliance, so as long as you can continue to keep your pride intact and your credentials as a martyr well burnished.
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