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Originally posted by Spheniscidae Spheniscidae wrote:


Man up, H? leadership - and stop throwing your friends and allies in front of the bus to save your skin.


Most of the bile is not worth responding to, but to this bit I shall... You have thrown umpteen attacks at the leaders of H? We have been squarely in the route of the bus. The total incompetence of your bus drivers really isn't our problem! ;)
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Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

Mass destruction of entire accounts in which players have invested real money IS evil  ...  It's wonderful that new players are helped in this game, they should be warned they could lose it all on a whim weather it be a personal vendetta or bruised ego

The whatever-you-want-to-call-us Alliance has requested for what amounts to little more than a slap on the wrist as a condition to end this war. If the leaders of H? want to rant on about dignity, evil and other metaphysical concerns, that is their choice but the blood of your fellow alliance members is on YOUR head. 

Why these terms? Because we feel the leaders of H? who dragged them into this war and even now want to keep the war alive should show some solidarity with their members and former allies who have lost cities. 

If you want to see how H? decides terms - http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/just-the-facts-maam_topic4901_page9.html - KP shows that their "bruised ego" is what they use to decide how many cities should be lost as part of surrender terms. 

Man up, H? leadership - and stop throwing your friends and allies in front of the bus to save your skin.

On a side note - since we are rehashing the "driving people from the game" thing - where is Kurdruk? Cpt. Ganoes Paran? Jasche?
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New post same discussion, H have made it clear several times in other posts that they will not surrender, the others will continue to attack until they do so the end result has not changed direction. Move onwards and upwards those still engaged.
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Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

I'm going to post this one last time, H never allowed the mass destruction of entire accounts, we set limits and knew when to stop.    So do what you need to ease your conscience, you cannot erase the vindictiveness of this war and the number of great players that have been driven from this game.  


Well stated, Starry.

The bottom line is that more H? members, accounts, towns, and those of our allies have been wiped out in this war than all the other wars in Illy combined. Shade and Soon honorably realized they had achieved their objectives and declared Peace. If the "GA" took that approach, I'd have respect for them. The fact that they insist on adding insult to injury at this juncture speaks volumes about the degree to which the bile that many of them have for us has pervaded their very being.

I also find particularly bilious the insinuation that H? doesn't care about its members. Our members are behind us, always have been, and the second they want to stop, we will. I would happily sacrifice all twenty of Kumo and EO's cities to protect any of our members. The simple fact is they know who started this and don't want it.

(and I do find it incredibly amusing that you are demanding two of the four cities come from the Swamp Fox... But I don't blame you... See if you can take through diplomacy what you are completely incapable of doing militarily?)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Starry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 23:57
Of course it's not intended for H members, they've been very vocal about our united stance in this war.   It's a PR stunt, pure and simple.

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Mass destruction of entire accounts in which players have invested real money IS evil.    In a game where it takes years to fully build up an account, wiping them out reduces Illy to the same games we all left.   It's wonderful that new players are helped in this game, they should be warned they could lose it all on a whim whether it be a personal vendetta or bruised ego

I'm going to post this one last time, H never allowed the mass destruction of entire accounts, we set limits and knew when to stop.    So do what you need to ease your conscience, you cannot erase the vindictiveness of this war and the number of great players that have been driven from this game.  




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Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:


I'm doing the same - our members just have more balls than yours.


Well said ... and this is imho the whole point to the matter ... they want a surrender for various reasons :

  • So that they can look good and benevolent even after wiping out whole accounts. This topic has this exact point and no other.
  • They want to finally make us surrender so that they can gloat afterwards and start various accusations like they did in my case for example.
  • They want H? to stick around and use it like a "scarecrow" so that their "not so stable" alliance gathering does not crumble and fight amongst each other. Without another powerhouse in the game like H? such frictions are inevitable, especially after the "funny" events of the last tournament
After all those years and all those previous posts and topics where such issues where thouroghly explained they just cannot think that we are actually that gullible or bereft of memory, so my guess is that this topic is not really addressed towards H? and its members.
 
I can only hope that the real "target group" of this topic can see through such obvious beautification efforts ...



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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Thanks once again to KP for representing so honorably the history and dignity of H? as he has done for years. Cheers chief!
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