Alliance Establishment Cost Increase

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   I don't know a lot about how alliances and alliance controls are set up, having never founded an alliance. But I would not decrease the number of people.

What I would do is set up a Tanist role. Where the lord appoints an heir. If the lord does not log in for 30 days, the heir then owns the alliance. If there is no heir, after the lord is inactive for 30 days, the alliance automatically disbands. poof. This would lead to less alliances of 1 inactive person.

I would also like to see training alliances take themselves seriously. Learning the game is much more than just feeding resources and giving people forum links. I think it should be really about how to learn game mechanics, what is the best way to build up your cities, your military, your diplomats. Are quests worth it, etc. The more you learn, the more you are likely to stay. Just being fed resources can eventually lead to boredom.

I would not mind seeing chartered training alliances where certain standards have to be met and players in those alliances could only remain 30 days but could keep their safe flag the entire time. Then they would go out into the world better able to not just thrive, but survive. 

I think there should be a good way also for people to show their alliance pride here on the forums. Maybe alliances after a certain time of stability could have a flag or a pip or whatever you want to call it and you would have a spot in your profile for 2 of them, one for each alt, and you could show with pride where you called home. The more pride alliances take in themselves and their members, the better they can contribute to the game. 

But then I have a different playing style than others do.

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Cerridwyn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Greenhorn Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Location: So. Cal. Status: Offline Points: 82	Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 18:53
	I don't know a lot about how alliances and alliance controls are set up, having never founded an alliance. But I would not decrease the number of people. What I would do is set up a Tanist role. Where the lord appoints an heir. If the lord does not log in for 30 days, the heir then owns the alliance. If there is no heir, after the lord is inactive for 30 days, the alliance automatically disbands. poof. This would lead to less alliances of 1 inactive person. I would also like to see training alliances take themselves seriously. Learning the game is much more than just feeding resources and giving people forum links. I think it should be really about how to learn game mechanics, what is the best way to build up your cities, your military, your diplomats. Are quests worth it, etc. The more you learn, the more you are likely to stay. Just being fed resources can eventually lead to boredom. I would not mind seeing chartered training alliances where certain standards have to be met and players in those alliances could only remain 30 days but could keep their safe flag the entire time. Then they would go out into the world better able to not just thrive, but survive. I think there should be a good way also for people to show their alliance pride here on the forums. Maybe alliances after a certain time of stability could have a flag or a pip or whatever you want to call it and you would have a spot in your profile for 2 of them, one for each alt, and you could show with pride where you called home. The more pride alliances take in themselves and their members, the better they can contribute to the game. But then I have a different playing style than others do.
	Cerridwyn ~-~ Cerdwyn

abstractdream Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Location: Oarnamly Status: Offline Points: 1857	Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 15:05
	That's just not what most new players want. In my experience (limited as it is) newbies want large, established alliances that can feed them a continuous line of resources. Many alliances are quite successful using this strategy. Going to 50 will only effect the larger alliances and especially the training alliances. It doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Raising the price will not stop the determined and would certainly curb the glut of dead alliances, as it did when it was raised previously (I presume.) 5 mil isn't outrageous, imnsho.
	Bonfyr Verboo

twilights Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 21 May 2012 Status: Offline Points: 915	Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 14:24
	i personally believe it needs to go the other way, limit alliances to 50, get rid of nap and encourage many more alliances, we need to attract more new players and with the age of the game, its changing the game completely, the new players are entering into alliances where older players need only to log in once in awhile and the abundance of resources currently in the game is changing the need of developing castles, with smaller alliances it might allow the new players to enjoy the full aspect of the game, lower the price of starting an alliance is what i suggest, we need alot more to keep the game fresh!

invictusa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 16 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 488	Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 10:22
	There was a time when new alliances were encouraged, I assume. The price of banding together was small. Then the Illyriad Trade Council found the Flaw in this plan some time afterward. Taken from our herald long ago: "Alliances could previously be established for as little as 5,000 Gold by Lords who had advanced their diplomatic skills. The cost of establishing a new Alliance has been increased one hundred-fold and new Alliance Charters will only be issued to Lords in return for 500,000 gold pieces." Has the time come again to raise the price of an alliance charter? What would be your protests if the established government of elgea raised the price of a new alliance "one hundred-fold" once again? At least 5,000,000 would be reasonable I think. But I would prefer 50,000,000.
	...and miles to go before I sleep.