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    Posted: 14 Aug 2014 at 21:59
I'd assume this is mostly a solved problem in MMOs.
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Originally posted by King korr King korr wrote:

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An IP address will not identify a person.
Don't worry; there are other ways to identify the same person multi-accounting.
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Originally posted by Miklabjarnir Miklabjarnir wrote:

Originally posted by Ficho Ficho wrote:

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If I play from different IP adresess?
Sometime i am traveling, and I playing from other cities, even countries.
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An IP address will not identify a person. 

The same person can use many IP addresses, even without moving. Some ISPs have TTL down to an hour.

An IP address can be used by many different people, especially in rural areas where you have community ISPs or somebody opens their connection to the neighbourhood. Some ISPs have a central NAT and connect their customers on a private sub-network.

Some people do not even have their own PC, and have to share with their family, a community center or a library. Maybe even an OLPC grid network. Illy is not restricted to the affluent parts of the world. It is, after all, free to play.

Ip address isn't the way to go as it mean both me,the gf and my brother would have to somehow share two account's if it was limited to two account's per ip address which would make all three of us leave illy ......

Even prestige buying wouldn't be a way as i buy prestige for my gf so should we be punished for that ? and i know others who have brought it for either partner's or their children who play illy. and because wasn't in same alliance couldn't of given them prestige any other way 


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T&C are quite clear: only one person holds the login for each account.

Any mechanism that relies on one player is flawed, e.g. one player acting as trade broker for the alliance.

Perhaps the simplest way, is to have an Alliance Trade Hub at the Alliance Capital. Only alliance members may trade there, but otherwise it works the same way as existing Trade Hubs, appearing in the same UIs. This allows discounted or nominal pricing, and exclusive access.

Players can contribute their own vans to the Hub, but those vans follow Hub rules. A 'Remove stock from alliance capital' permission, per alliance rank, lets those players remove stock using their own vans.

If you want to change the alliance capital to be another town, you lose all the stock from the old capital. You'd need to empty it first.

Edit: thought of a flaw: When you send resources to the square, are you sending to the town or the alliance trade hub?


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An alliance setting up an account and city for this purpose is certainly not something I would recommend as to me it would at best seem a clumsy soloution, merely as a newish player something that I was wondering if anybody had done. 
I do think an alliance bank would be great way to help with many distribution problems though.
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Originally posted by Ficho Ficho wrote:

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If I play from different IP adresess?
Sometime i am traveling, and I playing from other cities, even countries.
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An IP address will not identify a person. 

The same person can use many IP addresses, even without moving. Some ISPs have TTL down to an hour.

An IP address can be used by many different people, especially in rural areas where you have community ISPs or somebody opens their connection to the neighbourhood. Some ISPs have a central NAT and connect their customers on a private sub-network.

Some people do not even have their own PC, and have to share with their family, a community center or a library. Maybe even an OLPC grid network. Illy is not restricted to the affluent parts of the world. It is, after all, free to play.
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Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

Originally posted by Zarhunt Zarhunt wrote:

I suppose an alliance could set up an account and a city for this purpose and give everybody the password, but I have no knowledge of anybody doing this and would seem a difficult solution.
it would be against ToS, so if you do this it would be best not to post it here.  :P

I agree completely. Never, ever share your passwords or all accounts can be booted from the game.

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If I play from different IP adresess?
Sometime i am traveling, and I playing from other cities, even countries.


With very great certainty I can say this: 

Those who play with other people's accounts is now more than 10 percent. 

(only need to look at and study well the ranking list, and in particular the section Player History, For smart man enough. Sapienti sat.) 
 

When, therefore, starts cleaning action of these players and / or account ?. 

The answer can also be sent via IGM 

Thanks in advance!


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Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

Originally posted by Zarhunt Zarhunt wrote:

I suppose an alliance could set up an account and a city for this purpose and give everybody the password, but I have no knowledge of anybody doing this and would seem a difficult solution.
it would be against ToS, so if you do this it would be best not to post it here.  :P

I agree completely. Never, ever share your passwords or all accounts can be booted from the game.

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Originally posted by Zarhunt Zarhunt wrote:

I suppose an alliance could set up an account and a city for this purpose and give everybody the password, but I have no knowledge of anybody doing this and would seem a difficult solution.
it would be against ToS, so if you do this it would be best not to post it here.  :P

Originally posted by Zarhunt Zarhunt wrote:

The obvious danger in such a scheme is people joining alliances to gain access and empty the alliances coffers. I would think a fairly simple permissions scale to be administered the alliance leadership would be simple enough to implement though as security measure.
this is the magical part. to be practical, someone would need to work out just what these permissions would do, how they would be set, etc. without this, an alliance bank as you describe would be an invitation to a level of deceit not yet seen in illy. the prestige pool is probably the place to start, but would every storable resource have to have a daily quota attached? that seems very complex.


Edited by Angrim - 11 Aug 2014 at 12:51
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