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Originally posted by Spartacus Spartacus wrote:

That's a load of rubbish. Gwen is a military player, a veteran of several wars in TUF and was a general in Aesir - the name Benedict Arnold comes to mind.

The idea that Malek has a right to attack Kenyl is laughable and the idea that we have no right to come to the aid of an attacked player is ridiculous too. It's schoolyard bully logic - 'You didn't do what I old you so its your fault that I 'have' to hurt you.' Crap.

There has been no engagement yet in the war with Ta2in. SIN have taken one of my cities which as I explained above I decided not to defend.


We at Ta2in have never told anyone what to do? We have stated that if you do something we don't like, you may get a visit  from us. You can do whatever you want in Illy just be ready for the consequences. Members of Aesir should listen and realize what their leader has done to your alliance...putting his personal interests ahead of the safety and survival of your alliance, and putting your cities at risk. Rise up members of Aesir and save your alliance!!!! Smite the fake Warlord!! Save the Illy that you love, the same Illy Gwen loved... not the Illy that Hucbold tries to jam down your throats!! SEIZE THE DAY AND TAKE BACK YOUR ALLIANCE !!! THEY MAY TAKE OUR LAND BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!


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Originally posted by Ten Kulch Ten Kulch wrote:

Originally posted by Spartacus Spartacus wrote:

I think most people will understand my disappointment that a very senior member would walk away without a word, when we were well able to defend her and without giving us the option to do so.

Well able to defend her? You yourself got razed. Any respectable muggle leader clears out the non-combatants before plunging their whole alliance into a real war. You weren't even attacked, you made a proactive move, apparently with zero preparation or warning to your members.

Originally posted by Spartacus Spartacus wrote:

You're free to play your game but not to interfere with me or my members. I just want you to back down from an ss monopoly and stop attacking the guy who has the last ss mine not in your control.

Kenyl wasn't one of your members until after this whole debacle had been running for weeks. So Malek is free to play his game, but not interfere with your or your members, unless you feel like jumping right in the middle of his business. Which is the actually the opposite of being free to play his game, if you can arbitrarily interfere.

Don't get me wrong, I support arbitrary interference and all resulting consequences. I just don't support people being disingenuous about it on the forums. You purposely brought Kenyl to Aesir so you could involve yourself in his clash with Malek and TA2IN over Silversteel, and now you are lashing out at your own members for fleeing a war that they didn't sign up for, and which you are already losing.

That's a load of rubbish. Gwen is a military player, a veteran of several wars in TUF and was a general in Aesir - the name Benedict Arnold comes to mind.

The idea that Malek has a right to attack Kenyl is laughable and the idea that we have no right to come to the aid of an attacked player is ridiculous too. It's schoolyard bully logic - 'You didn't do what I old you so its your fault that I 'have' to hurt you.' Crap.

There has been no engagement yet in the war with Ta2in. SIN have taken one of my cities which as I explained above I decided not to defend.
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Originally posted by Spartacus Spartacus wrote:

I think most people will understand my disappointment that a very senior member would walk away without a word, when we were well able to defend her and without giving us the option to do so.

Well able to defend her? You yourself got razed. Any respectable muggle leader clears out the non-combatants before plunging their whole alliance into a real war. You weren't even attacked, you made a proactive move, apparently with zero preparation or warning to your members.

Originally posted by Spartacus Spartacus wrote:

You're free to play your game but not to interfere with me or my members. I just want you to back down from an ss monopoly and stop attacking the guy who has the last ss mine not in your control.

Kenyl wasn't one of your members until after this whole debacle had been running for weeks. So Malek is free to play his game, but not interfere with your or your members, unless you feel like jumping right in the middle of his business. Which is the actually the opposite of being free to play his game, if you can arbitrarily interfere.

Don't get me wrong, I support arbitrary interference and all resulting consequences. I just don't support people being disingenuous about it on the forums. You purposely brought Kenyl to Aesir so you could involve yourself in his clash with Malek and TA2IN over Silversteel, and now you are lashing out at your own members for fleeing a war that they didn't sign up for, and which you are already losing.

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Hey Hucbold... guess how many fingers I am holding up????
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Originally posted by Malek Malek wrote:

All I am doing is pointing out facts and you confirm them. What is good to note from your side is that you will attack people that leave and deem them all as traitors.

It does not matter that it was a feint it's the fact you sent it in the first place.

As for coming for me in se elgea. Yeah right, I would like to see you step one foot in my desert. offer still stands 500m if you can take one of my towns.
You don't have the troops or the skill to take me down. i rank your military skills at bottom feeder levels,
Right there next to how your alliance people will be treated by you when they surrender.

I think most people will understand my disappointment that a very senior member would walk away without a word, when we were well able to defend her and without giving us the option to do so.

I'm not stupid. I'm not trying to take you down. You're free to play your game but not to interfere with me or my members. I just want you to back down from an ss monopoly and stop attacking the guy who has the last ss mine not in your control. I don't give a damn about silversteel but I will defend the rights of those who want it. This is likely to be a long and protracted war and I don't want your town or your loose change.

If anyone in Ta2in wants to leave they are free to do so and will not be pursued.
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All I am doing is pointing out facts and you confirm them. What is good to note from your side is that you will attack people that leave and deem them all as traitors.

It does not matter that it was a feint it's the fact you sent it in the first place.

As for coming for me in se elgea. Yeah right, I would like to see you step one foot in my desert. offer still stands 500m if you can take one of my towns.
You don't have the troops or the skill to take me down. i rank your military skills at bottom feeder levels,
Right there next to how your alliance people will be treated by you when they surrender.
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Originally posted by Malek Malek wrote:

Originally posted by Hucbold Hucbold wrote:

Farmers, turn your ploughshares into swords and attack. For clarity, we seek a dogpile to save the game we love and tame the schoolyard bullies. 


Yesterday, I took the surrender of Pagan Mistress / Gwendalynn. There were no strings attached, all she had to do was drop and go where ever she wanted. She had selected cave and it was done. 

This morning I was informed that Hucbold had decided to launch an attack at gwendalynn for surrendering. In the 6 years that I have been playing, I have never seen such actions undertaken, that an alliance (alliance leader no less) has attacked a player for individually surrendering. 

Just last week hucbold was in GC begging for help to break a siege on him on a war he declared and all of a sudden he has troops to send at one of his own members, let alone sending them at one of his enemies. 

You may want to label me as the school yard bully, thats fine, id rather be labelled that than the domestic home bully that you are. 

You want people to help you, and when they decide to not help this is how you treat them? Good luck finding anyone that wants to help you now, wont be surprised if you get knifed by your own alliance over this. 




Good job Malek. You're good at black propaganda. 

The attack on Gwen was a feint as I'm sure she'll confirm. I'm angry with her for walking away without apology or explanation. She was a council member and she just left. I regard her as a traitor.

I have no shortage of troups. According to durc tools, I have in excess of 600k plus whats out on missions. I was NOT last week appealing for help breaking a siege. I was calling for a server wide reaction to the behaviour of ta2in and its allies.

The siege in question was inevitably going to fall. When I exoed, many weeks ago, I arrived one square away from where I intended. After cursing and swearing for a bit, seeing that I landed one space from a building, I decided not to wait the 5 days to move again, but to build swords in that town. I was aiming for 60-80k but only got to 25k when the SIN (NOT Ta2in) siege hit. I wouldn't let my people waste cav so the town fell. We did kill 216,536. but the town fell before we got enough swords there. Another 38k were killed subsequently. I interpret this as retaliation for a very stupid mistake HumanResources made when he let me steal a town from under his nose and nothing to do with our war with ta2in, the action for which will surely take place with Ta2in in SE Elgea.

Feint successful on Cainham-Shropshire Englan (Gwendalynn)

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Received By:Hucbold [Æsir]
Date:18 Sep 2017 06:25
Your troops marched up to Cainham-Shropshire Englan and followed your orders by immediately returning home rather than engage.

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Originally posted by Hucbold Hucbold wrote:

Farmers, turn your ploughshares into swords and attack. For clarity, we seek a dogpile to save the game we love and tame the schoolyard bullies. 


Yesterday, I took the surrender of Pagan Mistress / Gwendalynn. There were no strings attached, all she had to do was drop and go where ever she wanted. She had selected cave and it was done. 

This morning I was informed that Hucbold had decided to launch an attack at gwendalynn for surrendering. In the 6 years that I have been playing, I have never seen such actions undertaken, that an alliance (alliance leader no less) has attacked a player for individually surrendering. 

Just last week hucbold was in GC begging for help to break a siege on him on a war he declared and all of a sudden he has troops to send at one of his own members, let alone sending them at one of his enemies. 

You may want to label me as the school yard bully, thats fine, id rather be labelled that than the domestic home bully that you are. 

You want people to help you, and when they decide to not help this is how you treat them? Good luck finding anyone that wants to help you now, wont be surprised if you get knifed by your own alliance over this. 



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