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    Posted: 16 Aug 2014 at 13:17
Originally posted by Bimoda Bimoda wrote:

Wave has already been informed that this siege will be recalled.
it will be clear to any of us monitoring this situation that either there is no one in Fairy who can make policy for the entire alliance or it is the policy of Fairy to keep WAVE on edge with regard to how long sieges will continue and on what basis. Fairy has razed six cities over this matter, none of which were in any sense in violation of the 10 square rule. TanyaFairy declared in gc that the matter was resolved and Gaia's city would be allowed to stay *before* Bimoda proceeded to siege it...because WAVE (having thought the matter concluded) had no desire to talk further or make additional concessions after the matter had been resolved per Fairy's leadership.

i am on the other side of the world, and ultimately what happens in the northwest of Elgea must be the concern of its residents. but i am also a strong proponent of the 10 square rule, and for its sake it must be considered now that the 10 square rule is being used as a decoy for a more expansive policy by Fairy involving an offer for WAVE members to join Fairy and the systematic destruction of WAVE resources it uses to support newbs and otherwise function as a viable recruiting alliance. the six cities mentioned were Myll's. i bear him no love for his reckless opposition to a generally beneficial understanding between alliances, but Fairy has used the opportunity to destroy his account, by their own word to ensure that he cannot return to the game and "lead others astray". i find this entire justification objectionable. but beyond that, even H?, which at the time was unassailable as a military power, only ever claimed for themselves the right to remove the offending city with regard to their 10 square policy.

imo, Fairy has been amply paid for this infraction in the taking of six of the largest cities available to the WAVE alliance, an alliance which it well knows cannot mount any credible defence against it. let it leave off further sieges and let TanyaFairy's word to gc stand in this matter. if WAVE fails to learn cause and effect from the experience, there will be another day to see it through.
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But if you read the later posts you will see that Gaia disputed our statement that she was following Myll's directions and was responsible for her own actions.
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Wave has already been informed that this siege will be recalled.
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Originally posted by Bimoda Bimoda wrote:


.... Additionally, the offending player in this instance, Gaia, cannot truly be found at fault, as she is a newer player and was following the orders of her alliance leader and is continuing to do so.  It would be unfair of us in this case to raze her city. Instead we have come to the decision to place the blame where it is truly due....
[04:59]<System> ** News Flash: Gaia of Hell's [WAVE] small town of 2. City of Ravens is now under siege by Aminn Scharffblick's [Fairy] sprawling city of Gestohlen
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war is the continuation of diplomacy by other means.
Rather than compromise, I think Myll has brought all this on himself/herself?
Compromise is king in this game where it takes months to build up and a few days to destroy all that hard work.
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Sigh, I just dont know what the fuss was all about...It seems to me that really Myll dug his own grave in this case. A little bit of diplomacy would have saved all this from happening. Honestly, it wouldnt have costed a thing if Gaia had just moved her city.

I recently settled my city in BL, and found a nice spot (with dolmens and all) but another player was enroute near it, however once realising that I had settled there first, he decided to leave. He was larger in size and was from a good respected alliance too however with some dialogue we easily resolved the issue. Similarly in another case my friend had to move because another player had arrived there first.

What I mean to say is, the conflict got resolved easily, something which WAVE could have done as well. Some people are criticising FAIRY, but honestly how much does it take to just move the city a few tiles which WAVE could have done. WAVE might even have developed a nice friendly relation in the process

But instead the leader chose a non-cooperative policy. I still believe WAVE can mend the ties if they choose to do so.

Anyways just my thoughts on the issue
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Aral- ummm, yes.

I've always been a big supporter of doing what you want, so long as you don't cry foul when your actions get yourself into trouble.
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edit....sorry, accidentally responding to IGM on forum... Carry on

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I'm going to make this really simple for everyone in this thread:

Some people make rules about how they want people to interact with the game.  

Other people might disagree with those rules.  

This is not an issue until the two parties come into conflict about those rules.  

When the two parties do come into conflict concerning the rules, the stronger party will inevitably enforce its will on the weaker party.  

If a third party has any quarrel about the subjugation of the weaker party by the stronger party, or with the rule set forth, they are welcome to join either side of the conflict.

It doesn't matter what you think about the guideline set in place by some alliances concerning the 314.159 (about) squares around their cities, unless you (or someone else) have the troops available to make it matter.  

Can we all agree on this simple fact?  


Edited by Aral - 12 Jul 2014 at 00:49
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Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

And listen to a former Ogame player: It could be far worse!


Everynow and then I miss Ogame, then I remember having to fleetsave


I wish people would understand that the only 10 sq rule that really exists is for exodus and tenaril and that can be overcome with lvl 5 sov...  beyond that you can do what you like, but you will have to deal with the consequences of your actions.

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