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GM Rikoo
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 16:28 |
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Commanders please refrain from calling each other Hitler/Nazis/ whatever. I will warn this time, but if it pops up again I will get rid of the post and possibly quiet the person.
Plus, don't be THAT player. GM Rikoo
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Bimoda
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 16:38 |
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+1 that Rikoo
I'm still trying to figure out if he was referring to me? I always looked at myself more as a Gen. MacArthur. (But better looking) ![]()
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Bimoda - Dragon Fairy: Illyria Fairy Nation [FAIRY]
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bansisdead
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 17:11 |
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So you still haven't answered my question, is this aggression solely aimed at Myll, as was originally proposed or as TanyaFairy states who ever is leader?
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abstractdream
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 18:57 |
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I've had more cities drop down within 10 of me or my alliance mates, unannounced than I've had players contact any of us for permission, or to at least let us know. Based on that and the abundance of cities that can be found closer than the so called rule of 10 (outside of the newb ring), I'm thinking there are quite a few players and alliances who don't abide by it. Some of you say that if asked, you'll allow it. So, it's not a rule to keep cities further than 10. For those who try to implement it, it's a rule to dictate who can and who cannot settle nearby. The 10 square rule is based on game mechanics. It has been extended, by alliance policy to include more than the developers designed it to encompass. Many alliances don't abide by it. Some on both sides are willing to take it to war. Myll is pushing his members to go into places they are not welcomed. Who knows what the point of this is? If it's simply to be provocative, and there are so many other ways to do that, what's the point? Is the territory so coveted? I don't think so. There is so much room in TBL, it's overwhelming when viewed in comparison to Elgea. I just don't get it. Fairy says they have exhausted diplomacy. They have announced that they will be taking down Myll, one city at a time until he relents and calls for the removal of the violating city. If diplomacy is not working, as they say, this seems like a good strategy to me. It looks fairly cut and dry, in my opinion. One alliance, with more power is dictating how and where another alliance, with less power can play. Edited by abstractdream - 11 Jul 2014 at 19:28 |
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Ista
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 19:00 |
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This is Gaia's response:
I think it’s time to little explain where I’m standing. When I decided to start Illyriad the reason was partially game rules. I game here and then saw in alliance pages many times 10-tile rule there written. Myll kindly explained to me some history of that so called rule. Then checked some forums and talked about it with other people. It was clear there is no such rule in the game. Only rule is that I can’t exodus to that area. BUT you CAN do it if you claim sovereignty V to that tile. So,
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Ista
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 19:02 |
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Tanya, Ok you have succeeded in wiping out Myll's cities. Who's next? Myll's is gone. We have a Council of Five running the alliance. EDIT: (from the rules section)
Do not post any more IGMs. GM Rikoo Edited by GM Rikoo - 11 Jul 2014 at 20:21 |
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abstractdream
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 19:25 |
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So, I can see at least one better spot very near that Faction Hub but away from Fairy cities. There are more. Why did Gaia pick the spot she did? I can only think of one reason, to specifically throw Fairy's policy in their face. Sounds like an act of war to me.
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Ista
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 19:36 |
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So if we bow down to you, live by "your" rules, we get to continue
playing the game. In the meantime you are stealing the resources we
needed to grow as an alliance by destroying Myll's cities.
We tried to be diplomatic. We have taken the high road and not gotten into any public forum war. Fairies response from the beginning has been. 1. Remove city they felt was in violation of "their" policy even though they failed to exercise due diligence in rectifying this before Sov 5 was claimed. 2. Upon learning Myll was no longer Tsunami leader suggested WAVE join Fairies alliance. When offer not accepted. 3. Waged war, and yes Tanya it is a war, on Myll's cities. It has been stated by Fairy leadership that if we do not bow down to "their demands" after Myll's cities are destroyed they will come after the next alliance leader or anyone who intercedes. This is simply a case of a larger alliance bullying a smaller one and attempting to keep other players away from the faction hub. This type of behavior and attitude is exactly why I stopped playing LoU. When I came here I was told that this kind of behavior wasn't tolerated in Illy. Seems I was misinformed. We do not agree with "your" 10 sq policy but we also do not blatantly establish our cities close to another alliances without following the proper game rules as was done in this case. In the beginning we had discussed, among ourselves, offering a NAP with Fairy but once threats starting being issued we felt that a NAP was a mute point. Not on our part but on Fairies. I will speak for myself, and not the alliance, at this point: If you want to continue with your high handed bullying tactics then go ahead and place my cities next on your list of cities to destroy. I WILL NOT bow down. I WILL NOT be told what I can and cannot do based on your whims. I would rather end my short tenure here at Illy standing up to spoiled little bullies than bowing down like a little wimp. If it makes you feel like a big dog then go ahead. There are too many games out there to play and every one of them has people with your mentality in them. I am too old to be dictated to by little girls. Now it is up to you to act like a grown up and cease and desist your attacks on our alliance, and yes that includes Myll's cities, or to continue to stomp your feet cause you aren't getting your way. My apologies to WAVE for speaking out when I agreed to let this play out. But I am done with this nonsense. Edited by Ista - 11 Jul 2014 at 19:39 |
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nighthawk7
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 19:46 |
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I agree with Ista on everything that was said. I came from LOU as well and thought this game would be great as there isn't any bullying. This has obviously shown its not the case. The ONLY reason they have attacked is because they are a much larger alliance than we are and can do what they want with us. We stand no chance to defend ourselves against these bullies. Add me to the list of which ones you want to attack next. I am like Ista and will not bow down to your rules. I'm sure my huge 989 population town will be fun for you to raze as well since you like to raze smaller than you towns/alliances.
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Steven Quincy Urpel
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Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 19:57 |
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Y'all should get an "I am Spartacus" / "I am Myll" meme going here.
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They call me MISTER Urp!
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