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Originally posted by ES2 ES2 wrote:

 
Permanent sitting is just a loophole around having more than two accounts. 

That is my 'opinion' too.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ES2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2013 at 17:07
Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

That is true Binky, not using farming accounts puts you at a disadvantage. The only thing 'normal' about it is that most people doesn't use farm accounts. 

I am not sure if not holding sitter accounts (or not having alt accounts) qualifies someone as stupid though. That is the way many people like to play. It is only a personal preference to not use it. 

Letting players create as many accounts as they wish can also be called fair (as the rules are same for everyone). Despite that most online games restrict players to one account per server. Again it is only a personal opinion that permasitting/multi-accounts should be disabled in the game. 



Permanent sitting is just a loophole around having more than two accounts. 
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That is true Binky, not using farming accounts puts you at a disadvantage. The only thing 'normal' about it is that most people doesn't use farm accounts. 

I am not sure if not holding sitter accounts (or not having alt accounts) qualifies someone as stupid though. That is the way many people like to play. It is only a personal preference to not use it. 

Letting players create as many accounts as they wish can also be called fair (as the rules are same for everyone). Despite that most online games restrict players to one account per server. Again it is only a personal opinion that permasitting/multi-accounts should be disabled in the game. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Binky the Berserker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2013 at 14:50
Sorry, Ander, but I don't see your point. You call players without sitting accounts "normal" but imo they are just plain stupid for not using the rules to their advanage. Like I said, everybody can do it, so everybody is able to sustain same troop numbers.

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Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

I don't see any problems in perma sitting. There's still a limit on the number of accounts (6 instead of 2) and it is available for everyone. It's not unfair, because everybody can use it and sat accounts are nowhere as good as the standard accounts a player can have. I don't even think it's possible to play 6 accounts unless one would stop sleeping and working. 

The problem with permasat accounts is leeching gold. One could have 4 permasat accounts in some training alliance, only to produce large amounts of gold and resources. The player need not even play the farm accounts - he just has to log in once a month to ship the gold and resources. That main account could then hold troop numbers that are not possible to sustain by a normal player.

If you remember, there was some outrage during the start of this war when some 'inactive' accounts outside of any alliances were targeted and destroyed.

Sat accounts being leeched for years and years is not good for the game imo. 

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Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

As I have said in many other permasitter threads:

If you remove or cripple the sitter function, it will only encourage players to give their login and password to other players. That's a security problem. The security risk outweighs the in-game problems caused by permasitters.

Is anyone assuming that passing of accounts and dualling isn't happening now? I've seen the sitter function being abused with intimidation in other games so not very keen on that as a security blanket.

I'd like to see all accounts deleted around the 1000-1200 day mark - limited life in a permanent world.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Binky the Berserker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2013 at 13:27
I don't see any problems in perma sitting. There's still a limit on the number of accounts (6 instead of 2) and it is available for everyone. It's not unfair, because everybody can use it and sat accounts are nowhere as good as the standard accounts a player can have. I don't even think it's possible to play 6 accounts unless one would stop sleeping and working.
I really don't understand the problems people have with permasitters. Is it because you don't have them you feel others shouldn't? Turn that around and just start sitting a quitter to make things equal again. It's part of the rules one can sit 4 accounts, and those rules are the same for everyone so please stop saying it's bad for ballance in the game.
The fact that you don't know what players has which accounts is still there when you delete all permasat accounts. It just gets a bit easier to determine where the accounts belong. Simplifying the game doesn't improve it imo. Au contraire
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angrim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2013 at 05:31
Originally posted by Mr Damage Mr Damage wrote:

I dont understand the continued thread after thread about sitting.
it's true nothing will come of continued threads on the subject, but it continues to be brought up because dev action on it could shift the balance of power in the game from a (relatively) few well established players/alliances to something more closely proportional to the number of players playing.  think about how the top 10 alliances might look if all sat accounts were eliminated.  is it so difficult to understand why it keeps coming up?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mr Damage Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2013 at 05:08
I dont understand the continued thread after thread about sitting. The devs had said they will deal with perceived issues when they get to it, not because we keep banging on about it. In any case, the community can sort sitting issues out just as quickly as the devs can. No-one is being forced to sit an account, so if you don't agree with sitting, then simply stop. There's no unfair advantages from one group of player(s) to the next, its not an exploit its a game rule.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brandmeister Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2013 at 04:03
As I have said in many other permasitter threads:

If you remove or cripple the sitter function, it will only encourage players to give their login and password to other players. That's a security problem. The security risk outweighs the in-game problems caused by permasitters.
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