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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 17:20
This really isn't a problem with the Abandon function. It's a problem with account security, probably caused by password problems. Even if the devs "fixed" the Abandon function with extra steps or a timer, someone can still trash your account by demolishing cities, wasting your resources, disbanding your troops, exhausting your prestige, or any number of other undesirable things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 14:29
OK, one second.

If there is a separate issue with sitters, etc, please use the petition system and send me the information. Let's keep this topic on track or it will not work. I believe we have already spoke in game about the sitter issue, but I received an IGM, ****not a petition****.

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PLEASE petition issues. If you think it is something urgent or gamebreaking, send me an IGM. If a petition seems important and has gone unanswered for months or years, LET ME KNOW. I CANNOT READ MINDS.

Seriously... we created a petition system that is a bit TOO good for such a small team. There are too many of them, most that can be shut down because the issues have been fixed or can be fixed now, quickly. POINT THEM TO ME. Help me out, please. 

Having said that:

1) No, we ***will not*** compensate players who have been hacked, claim to have been hacked, or somehow lost control over their account. We have successfully used this system for years, with tens of thousands of abandons, with barely any issues.

2) We will not add a delay or a chance to "take back" an abandon. Imagine: Tony marks his account as abandoned, gets a bunch of attacks coming in, then claims it back and goes "HELP!!" - drama ensues. 

We will look into other possible things we can tweak, but the system works great as it is. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 14:06
I have found the IGM discussing this problem, will forward to GM Rikoo. The IGM has a snapshot of the problem also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 13:48
Originally posted by Serpentina Serpentina wrote:


Rikoo, can you see if Bob's abandonment was done during the same session?  Or in a subsequent session from the same IP?  If it was done from a different IP, and that traceroutes to a different geographical location, it'd sure lend credence that this may have been a hack.

This could also find out if the abandon was done by a sitter, exploiting the bug in the game. (If he had a sitter that is).

This bug hasnt occurred to me lately, but it occurred 3-4 times in a span of a few months when I used to log into my sitter's account frequently (when i was taking resources from her city to build up). So it is not all that uncommon.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 13:46
Cant someone change the email?  I think if they hack into abandon they can use the "change email" 
thats why a  timer would be best I think. or a code we get to protect our accounts. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 13:36
Originally posted by Bobtron Bobtron wrote:

My account has been manually abandoned, when never in a million years would i have abandoned it! Is there some 'hacker' or virus that is causing this? GMs, is it possible to reverse the abandonment when i did not consent to abandoning? This may also explain the abandonment of Half-Pint or Chet Militaire?

Do you have sitters? There is a bug that "sometimes" gives your account access to your sitter.

I have a few times been able to access the account rights of the player I sit for. 

How do I know? When I try to go back to my own account through this page
http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Player/Account?page=sitter

instead of showing "Return to your account" it just shows your sat account's sitter page that says 
"Accounts you sit for" and "Sitters on your account". 

I dont know how to reproduce this problem, but it has happened to other people as well. 

Once a person reported this problem to GM Luna. (I can give name of the player if the devs wants to check conversation with GM Luna regarding this problem). I believe GM Luna asked for screenshots and he was in no position to give that because he had logged out from the sat account.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 09:05
the email verification is a waste of time - if someone has your password they can change the email.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 08:28
I like the idea of e-mail verification, think it'l help a lot with the issue. 

And I know it's out of the question that you would return an account that has been abandoned, Rikoo, but maybe there could be some way of compensation? for those who lost their accounts due to hacking or w/e security compromise (whether they had a hand in it or not), like if they can provide info that they're the owner of said abandoned account within a certain amount of time, say 3-7days, they can get a new account with 1/3rd of their former account amount of cities and some kind of resource pack sent to them to help them rebuild, tho I believe the community itself can take care of that last part.

It's just an idea that I came up with on the fly so not sure if this would be possible either, It's just the players themselves are a huge aspect of Illy, and as Mr Damage said if I were them I won't bother starting over from scratch if I've been playing for 1+ years, so I think offering the means for these players to get back into the game won't be a bad idea at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 04:15
I'm with you Mr. Damage. It would be one thing to start over after being razed to the newb circle, at least that has some gameplay, it's something else again to wake up one day and realize you lost 4 years of effort to no end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 04:05
I dont know what can be done to stop this happening but the day it happens to me will be the day I cease playing. Not a chance I would consider restarting because of something that I had no control over.
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