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Quackers 
Forum Warrior
Joined: 19 Nov 2011
Location: Jeff City
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Points: 435
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 Posted: 20 May 2012 at 05:11 |
 Basil wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
As you said, Basil, you are new. And therefore, really do not have any appreciation for what you are talking about.
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Wrong. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
| And let's divorce ourselves from this concept of "let's discuss what is an appropriate distance for anything" and it needs to be approved by a popular vote.
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I said nothing of the kind. I simply stated that a unilateral declaration of ten squares of exclusivity was absurd. In my opinion.
| NO. Just like the real World. if there are treaties to be signed or alliances to be made, they are made by the powers that exist. And let those powers deliberate.
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"Powers that be" includes every single player in Illy. Every single player in Illy has a right to voice his opinion/objection/approval of whatever has an effect. "Just like in the real World"
| And you know what? All the moaning and groaning and hugging and snuggling that can possibly happen is not going to matter a whit when these alliances do put their heads together... |
And do you know what? Sitting back and meekly accepting what's offered, regardless how it may negatively affect you, is a chicken-s**t way to conduct your life.
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You can say what you want about the 10 square rule, but when someone starts stealing your sov, you will be upset. The 10 square rule is put in place for both parties, so each can grow. I wouldn't even dare putting my cities (unless it needed to be), within 10 squares of eachother. To do so would limit both towns growth. Call it stupid, but when you get to a high level (50k+ pop) you might start to see why 10 square rule is smart. It has nothing to do with being greedy or w/e, its about being there to help both parties grow their cities without limits.
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SugarFree
Forum Warrior
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 350
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 05:09 |
Basil wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
As you said, Basil, you are new. And therefore, really do not have any appreciation for what you are talking about.
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Wrong. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
| And let's divorce ourselves from this concept of "let's discuss what is an appropriate distance for anything" and it needs to be approved by a popular vote.
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I said nothing of the kind. I simply stated that a unilateral declaration of ten squares of exclusivity was absurd. In my opinion.
| NO. Just like the real World. if there are treaties to be signed or alliances to be made, they are made by the powers that exist. And let those powers deliberate.
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"Powers that be" includes every single player in Illy. Every single player in Illy has a right to voice his opinion/objection/approval of whatever has an effect. "Just like in the real World"
| And you know what? All the moaning and groaning and hugging and snuggling that can possibly happen is not going to matter a whit when these alliances do put their heads together... |
And do you know what? Sitting back and meekly accepting what's offered, regardless how it may negatively affect you, is a chicken-s**t way to conduct your life.
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just a few words ... LOL
with love, Kilotov.
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Silverlake
Forum Warrior
Joined: 15 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 417
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 05:08 |
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I find the request to be fair and honorable
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Basil
New Poster
Joined: 20 May 2012
Location: BritishColumbia
Status: Offline
Points: 12
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 05:06 |
Kumomoto wrote:
As you said, Basil, you are new. And therefore, really do not have any appreciation for what you are talking about.
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Wrong. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
| And let's divorce ourselves from this concept of "let's discuss what is an appropriate distance for anything" and it needs to be approved by a popular vote.
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I said nothing of the kind. I simply stated that a unilateral declaration of ten squares of exclusivity was absurd. In my opinion.
| NO. Just like the real World. if there are treaties to be signed or alliances to be made, they are made by the powers that exist. And let those powers deliberate.
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"Powers that be" includes every single player in Illy. Every single player in Illy has a right to voice his opinion/objection/approval of whatever has an effect. "Just like in the real World"
| And you know what? All the moaning and groaning and hugging and snuggling that can possibly happen is not going to matter a whit when these alliances do put their heads together... |
And do you know what? Sitting back and meekly accepting what's offered, regardless how it may negatively affect you, is a chicken-s**t way to conduct your life.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 04:51 |
Kumomoto wrote:
All the ... hugging and snuggling that can possibly happen is not going to matter a whit ...
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Remember these words.
Now abide faith, hope and love, these three. And the greatest of these is love.
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Points: 2224
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 04:36 |
Brids17 wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
There are 2,000 squares wide by 2,000 tall on the map. By my calculation, that makes 4,000,000 squares, no? |
Not really. A lot of it is either large areas of 1 foods (can you actually settle on that? Because it'd be hilarious) or large expanses of water down to the south. Oh and there's some desert areas too that are basically uninhabitable. So 3M is probably around the actual number of useful squares on the map. At least currently. |
Yes, really. It is actually 4mm squares. Whether they are appropriate for settling or not is completely irrelevant.
Edited by Kumomoto - 20 May 2012 at 04:37
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 1483
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 04:34 |
Kumomoto wrote:
There are 2,000 squares wide by 2,000 tall on the map. By my calculation, that makes 4,000,000 squares, no? |
Not really. A lot of it is either large areas of 1 foods (can you actually settle on that? Because it'd be hilarious) or large expanses of water down to the south. Oh and there's some desert areas too that are basically uninhabitable. So 3M is probably around the actual number of useful squares on the map. At least currently.
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Points: 2224
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 04:18 |
Basil wrote:
I'm a fairly new player here, but it seems to me that this policy is overly bellicose, and maybe just a little more than a bit greedy. You don't need that much space. If you'd said 8 squares, it would seem a little more reasonable, but even that is more than you can realistically use. Ten is absurd. |
As you said, Basil, you are new. And therefore, really do not have any appreciation for what you are talking about. And let's divorce ourselves from this concept of "let's discuss what is an appropriate distance for anything" and it needs to be approved by a popular vote. NO. Just like the real World. if there are treaties to be signed or alliances to be made, they are made by the powers that exist. And let those powers deliberate. And you know what? All the moaning and groaning and hugging and snuggling that can possibly happen is not going to matter a whit when these alliances do put their heads together...
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Basil
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Joined: 20 May 2012
Location: BritishColumbia
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Points: 12
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 03:56 |
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I'm a fairly new player here, but it seems to me that this policy is overly bellicose, and maybe just a little more than a bit greedy. You don't need that much space. If you'd said 8 squares, it would seem a little more reasonable, but even that is more than you can realistically use. Ten is absurd.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 20 May 2012 at 03:17 |
Kumomoto, you, sir are no Sauron ... 
(Or was someone else supposed to be Sauron and you were supposed to be Aragon? I'm confused ...)
I believe that on a small scale, we can overcome history and our baser natures, if we choose to do so. I am not saying it is a "right" or a "wrong" way, simply that it is a choice.
Oh, and honestly I don't care about being the best. I'm here to have fun and help other people have fun. Some people care about being the best, and that's great. It's not a priority for everyone. I guess you could say that I want to be the best Rill that I can be, but that doesn't mean that I need to be "better" than someone else. Lots of people can do what I do better than I can do it. Hopefully I can help and support them.
Edited by Rill - 20 May 2012 at 03:21
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