Play Now Login Create Account
illyriad
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - A question for H?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

A question for H?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
Author
geofrey View Drop Down
Postmaster General
Postmaster General
Avatar

Joined: 31 May 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 1013
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geofrey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2014 at 20:34
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

It is more important to understand the why of the question :) 

Why would you like to know and what benefit does it provide to give an answer?

This sounds like the topic for a new post entitled "Question for hath" 



Back to Top
Sir A View Drop Down
Wordsmith
Wordsmith
Avatar

Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 121
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sir A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2014 at 21:19
Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

Its amazing how no one from H? has been able to answer such a simple question.  Of course we all know the answer and we all know the reason this war is still happening is because H? is too full of themselves to admit defeat.  Yes I said defeat.  You lost.  It happens.  Get over it.  


Well, I bet that many people can answer it pretty well ... the problem is that Hathaldir will have to make a new topic and ask again just like the other times we did address the same question ... Tongue

As far as I am concerned I do prefer to see him interject and ask the same thing again and again in this topic, instead of going to another one and filling the forum with similar topics ...

I will only say that I find quite funny two logical issues with his motive behind the question :

1) The logic that since something worked once ergo it will work in the future, forever and unchanged, without adapting to the new situations, is quite obviously wrong. Surrendering only works on people that are willing to surrender and that is all it takes to stop that tactic from working. Tongue  Just adapt instead of still trying to use out of seer frustration the same tactic which worked on yourself. I understand his need for vengeance and of course he wants a surrender just to feel nice about it, but it ain't happening. Move on.


There is really nothing to adapt to since "no surrender" is not a real strategy.  All we have to do is keep razing your towns.  But at least we have an understanding as far as I can see.  You're not willing to surrender so we will keep fighting.  So there is no point in whining about losing towns or how "evil" we are.  You said yourself you will not surrender, so you will have to deal with losing everything.  

Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:


2) After your side tilted the table and changed all the informal "rules of engagement" that existed in this game, it is quite a logical leap that you ask for the informal "standard way of ending a war" to still apply. If you wanted a surrender you should never have crossed lines which your opponents can never accept (massive destruction of multiple accounts). Then again, knowing Hathaldir's "quest for revenge" my guess is that this is exactly why he crossed those lines in the first place in order to create the current mayhem. Wink

I think that only those two are enough for him to make a new topic ! ahaahahh

Massive destruction of multiple accounts during war is nothing new and we both know that.  But in this war there will naturally be a lot more of that since in the past alliances have surrendered before things escalated that far.  We are just adapting as you suggested Wink.  I really don't care if you don't surrender, I just don't understand why you guys are confused as to why we are still attacking you.  
Back to Top
KillerPoodle View Drop Down
Postmaster General
Postmaster General
Avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 1853
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KillerPoodle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2014 at 21:45
Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

Massive destruction of multiple accounts during war is nothing new and we both know that.

Nope - please provide any evidence you have to support this claim.

Quote
But in this war there will naturally be a lot more of that since in the past alliances have surrendered before things escalated that far.

One data point does not make a trend or support a theory.  I content the opposite. The wholesale destruction of accounts is down to only one thing - the policy of the WLTWPO Alliance.

Quote
I just don't understand why you guys are confused as to why we are still attacking you.  


Who said we're confused?  I think we know exactly why you are still attacking and have said so many times.
"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM

"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
Back to Top
Deranzin View Drop Down
Postmaster
Postmaster
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 845
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Deranzin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2014 at 21:46
Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

There is really nothing to adapt to since "no surrender" is not a real strategy.


How so .?. Because you say it isn't .?. LOL

Multiple RL examples depict otherwise ... referring to controversial historical events might be frowned upon so I will use non-controversial one's from our own history:

Spartans and Leonidas in Thermopyles. No surrender. Valid tactic.
Mesollogi siege defense in 1825-1826. No surrender. Valid tactic. They won the first siege and almost won the second one btw. They eventually exodused (they charged the besieging forces - est. 1500 survived)
Constantinopole siege defenses. No surrender in quite a numbers of cases (list here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sieges_of_Constantinople ). They won most of them.

You want more examples .?.

Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:


 All we have to do is keep razing your towns.


Well, if you find that solution easier or more reasonable, hey, who am I to tell you otherwise ...

I do have to note that I find such a solution quite unacceptable and I would have never been part of it ...

Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:


  But at least we have an understanding as far as I can see.  You're not willing to surrender so we will keep fighting.  So there is no point in whining about losing towns or how "evil" we are.  You said yourself you will not surrender, so you will have to deal with losing everything. 


I will tell you an ancient true story.

Diogenis the cynic was known to have been exiled from his home city o Corinth, so someone once tried to make fun of him by saying "So, Diogenes, how does it feel to have been condemned to never return to your home city" ... Diogenes without missing a beat gave the historical answer : "They condemned me to never return and I condemned them to stay were they are"

Got it .?. Wink

Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

Massive destruction of multiple accounts during war is nothing new and we both know that.


Nope ... in this case I know for a fact that it is quite the opposite and you keep saying what you think in order to convince others of your claim ...

Make a list of the active accounts destroyed during previous wars and this one and prove your point, if you can.

Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:


 But in this war there will naturally be a lot more of that since in the past alliances have surrendered before things escalated that far.  We are just adapting as you suggested Wink


You are adapting in the least creative and most destructive of ways ... if you think that this is something to be happy enough to wink about, hey, be my guest ... Tongue

Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:


I really don't care if you don't surrender, I just don't understand why you guys are confused as to why we are still attacking you.  


Did anyone express such a confusion .?. When did such a weird occurrence happened .?. Please link/quote.



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
Back to Top
Canesrule View Drop Down
Wordsmith
Wordsmith
Avatar

Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 112
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canesrule Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2014 at 22:43
I'm curious. What does WLTWPO stand for?
Back to Top
Gemley View Drop Down
Postmaster
Postmaster
Avatar

Joined: 20 Feb 2011
Location: Ralidor
Status: Offline
Points: 586
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gemley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2014 at 00:37
Originally posted by Canesrule Canesrule wrote:

I'm curious. What does WLTWPO stand for?
Which Ladybug Took Walter's Pink Oatcakes?    WLTWPO
 
 
 
�I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend� - J.R.R. Tolkien
Back to Top
KillerPoodle View Drop Down
Postmaster General
Postmaster General
Avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 1853
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KillerPoodle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2014 at 03:44
We Like To Wipe People Out.
"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM

"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
Back to Top
HATHALDIR View Drop Down
Forum Warrior
Forum Warrior
Avatar

Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Location: Adelaide
Status: Offline
Points: 380
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HATHALDIR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2014 at 04:11
Typo KP, i am sure it is We Love To Wipe People Out
There's worse blokes than me!!
Back to Top
KillerPoodle View Drop Down
Postmaster General
Postmaster General
Avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 1853
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KillerPoodle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2014 at 04:22
We agree on something!  OMG! - looking for four horsemen now.
"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM

"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
Back to Top
HATHALDIR View Drop Down
Forum Warrior
Forum Warrior
Avatar

Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Location: Adelaide
Status: Offline
Points: 380
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HATHALDIR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2014 at 05:17
New recruits for the Eagles are
  1. War
  2. Pestilence
  3. Famine
  4. Death                                     All great components of cavalry!
There's worse blokes than me!!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.