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Tinuviel's Voice 
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 Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 15:51 |
 Nokigon wrote:
We're going way off topic here, so I'll open a new thread in the Histories sub-forum in response to these questions. |
Nokigon, if you need any help recollecting the facts of that one, I'll be more than happy to help your memory the best I can. I'll be waiting for your impartial report on that little skirmish we had back in the day. Well, that will be a little strange because history is usually written by the victors, no?
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The_Dude
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 16:40 |
Sajreth wrote:
I personally see this as the first "major" war on this scale.... since the white war occured when there were still only two minute concentric circles of population on the continent.
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Well, you started Illy 7 months after the White War concluded so this is your first experience. Had you been here at the time of the White War, you would not think the game was 2 minute circles at all.
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The Duke
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 17:41 |
The_Dude wrote:
Sajreth wrote:
I personally see this as the first "major" war on this scale.... since the white war occured when there were still only two minute concentric circles of population on the continent.
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Well, you started Illy 7 months after the White War concluded so this is your first experience. Had you been here at the time of the White War, you would not think the game was 2 minute circles at all. |
I was around under a different alias at that time- however the biggest difference imo is the size of alliances and armies. The white war had few players that could support what we refer to as "major" armies. This war in scale is alot larger and "dwarfs" the White war imo
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"Our generation has had no Great Depression, no Great War. Our war is spiritual. Our depression is our lives."
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Tordenkaffen
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 17:52 |
TD - being a confused newbie at the time of the White War I can't really say I payed much attention to the war, however I do know that back then siege options were still in many respects being polished off by the devs, and options such as T3 buildings, sovereignty, commander levels and variables such as military experience and the magnitude of present day Illyriad really make the two quite different in most respects.
I think the intensity on the personal player level was a lot more tangible back then when the player base was still small and concentrated, when the forums were not regulated, but the scale has increased a lot since then in player size, numbers and impact.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 18:14 |
T3 bldgs did not exist. Siege was not even available until a couple of months into the war. Sov was introduced just a couple of months before the war concluded. The only change in Cmdrs is the special 15% division bonus was introduced after the White War was concluded.
Yes, accounts, cities and armies were smaller. However, combatants were spread quite far and the war waged for about 6 months with ultimately 11 alliances and a good portion of the active community involved. It was the largest war until the Consone War.
Yes, The Consone War is much larger than the White War. However, that should not be interpreted as the White War somehow being minor or insignificant.
Edited by The_Dude - 05 Jan 2013 at 19:22
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Hadus
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 20:27 |
The_Dude wrote:
T3 bldgs did not exist. Siege was not even available until a couple of months into the war. Sov was introduced just a couple of months before the war concluded. The only change in Cmdrs is the special 15% division bonus was introduced after the White War was concluded.
Yes, accounts, cities and armies were smaller. However, combatants were spread quite far and the war waged for about 6 months with ultimately 11 alliances and a good portion of the active community involved. It was the largest war until the Consone War.
Yes, The Consone War is much larger than the White War. However, that should not be interpreted as the White War somehow being minor or insignificant.
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I don't think that's what Sajreth was saying. They said this was the first major war on this scale, not the first major war, period.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 20:38 |
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Scale is relative. In the White War, big armies were 5-6K but that was true for everyone. In the Consone War, big armies are 20-30K but that is true for everyone. We all agree that the Consone War is larger than the White War.
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twilights
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 21:03 |
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this isnt a true war, at least not yet....licks lips thinking of the coming bloodshed, i hope hath is reading this, i am putting on red war paint with gold glitter now....dance dance dancing the war dance. actually this is a new age of illyriad, where war is being used to gain strategic goals...we probably going to see numerous wars and consistent warfare from now on. most of us are realizing that war isnt a doomsday for the game, war is just a neglected part that was seldom played. lets start offering more suggestions to the devs to improve war functions.....battle magic!
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Grego
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 21:18 |
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Army sizes during White War were smaller than nowadays but exodus of
Diablito and most of his mates had serious consequences on Illyriad in
whole. H? created a myth from this ancient war in which they paint
themselves as victorious peacekeepers, I believe it was misfortune for
good game.
btw, gameplayer would love Diablito's policy :)
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scaramouche
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 21:26 |
who is gameplayer anyway?...obviously he's hiding his IGN..but someone must know.
dont understand why he would come here as an alias, unless its because he feels he can say whatever he likes without perpetrating his IGN.
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