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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 20:27
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

T3 bldgs did not exist.  Siege was not even available until a couple of months into the war.  Sov was introduced just a couple of months before the war concluded.  The only change in Cmdrs is the special 15% division bonus was introduced after the White War was concluded.

Yes, accounts, cities and armies were smaller.  However, combatants were spread quite far and the war waged for about 6 months with ultimately 11 alliances and a good portion of the active community involved.  It was the largest war until the Consone War.

Yes, The Consone War is much larger than the White War.  However, that should not be interpreted as the White War somehow being minor or insignificant.




I don't think that's what Sajreth was saying. They said this was the first major war on this scale, not the first major war, period.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 18:14
T3 bldgs did not exist.  Siege was not even available until a couple of months into the war.  Sov was introduced just a couple of months before the war concluded.  The only change in Cmdrs is the special 15% division bonus was introduced after the White War was concluded.

Yes, accounts, cities and armies were smaller.  However, combatants were spread quite far and the war waged for about 6 months with ultimately 11 alliances and a good portion of the active community involved.  It was the largest war until the Consone War.

Yes, The Consone War is much larger than the White War.  However, that should not be interpreted as the White War somehow being minor or insignificant.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 17:52
TD - being a confused newbie at the time of the White War I can't really say I payed much attention to the war, however I do know that back then siege options were still in many respects being polished off by the devs, and options such as T3 buildings, sovereignty, commander levels and variables such as military experience and the magnitude of present day Illyriad really make the two quite different in most respects.

I think the intensity on the personal player level was a lot more tangible back then when the player base was still small and concentrated, when the forums were not regulated, but the scale has increased a lot since then in player size, numbers and impact.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 17:41
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Sajreth Sajreth wrote:

I personally see this as the first "major" war on this scale.... since the white war occured when there were still only two minute concentric circles of population on the continent.
Well, you started Illy 7 months after the White War concluded so this is your first experience.  Had you been here at the time of the White War, you would not think the game was 2 minute circles at all. 
I was around under a different alias at that time- however the biggest difference imo is the size of alliances and armies. The white war had few players that could support what we refer to as "major" armies. This war in scale is alot larger and "dwarfs" the White war imo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 16:40
Originally posted by Sajreth Sajreth wrote:

I personally see this as the first "major" war on this scale.... since the white war occured when there were still only two minute concentric circles of population on the continent.
Well, you started Illy 7 months after the White War concluded so this is your first experience.  Had you been here at the time of the White War, you would not think the game was 2 minute circles at all. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 15:51
Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

We're going way off topic here, so I'll open a new thread in the Histories sub-forum in response to these questions.



Nokigon, if you need any help recollecting the facts of that one, I'll be more than happy to help your memory the best I can.
I'll be waiting for your impartial report on that little skirmish we had back in the day.

Well, that will be a little strange because history is usually written by the victors, no?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 12:29
Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:

the speed of the dwarven Cavalry wasn’t enough.

ha ha ha!  "the speed of the dwarven Cavalry"!  certainly the first time i've heard those words in that order.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 10:44

We're going way off topic here, so I'll open a new thread in the Histories sub-forum in response to these questions.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 08:50
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Although I wasn't around, I think the CrowFed was involved in the Dark Blight war because of Dark Blight's attacks on Calaquendi, which had recently affiliated with Crow.

Notably this is the only major war in which CrowFed has been involved, with the exception of mCrow's participation on the Valar war.

Nokigon would be able to confirm but my recollection is that it due to DBs attacks on Calequendi that Calaquendi became part of crowded. Also, during this time most of DB's leadership went inactive

Champs soon followed up against the remnants of DB due to a longstanding feud.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 07:38
I personally see this as the first "major" war on this scale.... since the white war occured when there were still only two minute concentric circles of population on the continent.

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