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Uno
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Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 16:21 |
jordigui wrote:
So, as I understand following the Heavy Warhorse: Example: the Heavy Warhorse: +5% attack, -5% move speed, +10% Carry, -5% on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle If you attack on a hill in jungle you get a total bonus (malus) of -5%, right?
Another issue (not sure if it has already been answered), is that as I understand troops (and commanders) can be equiped with 1 armour, 1 weapon and 1 horse. But the armour and weapon are troop specific. So a spearmen unit will need to be equiped with leather and a spear. A knights that uses both chainmail and plate is gonna be able to choose, right? But then, this knight can only have a spear as a weapon, right? No sword? :(
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I answer in order: - no, you get a total bonus/malus of 0% on hills. First a generic +5% to attack anywhere, then a -5% because it's on hills. It means a total 0%.
edit: sorry I didn't see you wrote hills with jungle. In that case... I'm wondering too ^^
when there is no type of bonus stated it means it is a bonus/malus to attack and defense period. Otherwise it is stated what it applies to.
- the second question is a matter of speculation since equipping isn't live yet. From what I would assume you should be able to equip soldiers with any piece of armor used to train them. So if a knight is equipped with a chainmail and a platemail why should you chose which to give him? However, from the commander interface it looks like you can only equip them with one armor piece.
Edited by Uno - 05 Sep 2012 at 16:23
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Uno
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Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 16:16 |
GM ThunderCat wrote:
Brids17 wrote:
GM ThunderCat wrote:
Learner wrote:
Regarding the newly released equipment, I noticed a few unclear stats.
Example: the Heavy Warhorse: +5% attack, -5% move speed, +10% Carry, -5% on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle | To all attack and defence values (The adjustments are additive and applied to base unit stats - before other bonuses). |
So is that +5% increase on everything, then a -5% decrease on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle, meaning they cancel each other out and there is no decrease or increase on said areas?
Or is it a +5% attack on everything that is not hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle and then a -5% on them?
Perhaps these should be reworded to make them more understandable. | +5% increase on everything, then a -5% decrease on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle, meaning they cancel each other out and there is no decrease or increase on said areas.
These are unit stat adjustments - after which are then applied things like terrain, divisional bonuses etc. So the other bonuses (added together) multiply the equipment bonuses.
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This is incorrect ThunderCat because the +5% is only in attack so they don't quite cancel each other.
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jordigui
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Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 14:00 |
So, as I understand following the Heavy Warhorse: Example: the Heavy Warhorse: +5% attack, -5% move speed, +10% Carry, -5% on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle If you attack on a hill in jungle you get a total bonus (malus) of -5%, right?
Another issue (not sure if it has already been answered), is that as I understand troops (and commanders) can be equiped with 1 armour, 1 weapon and 1 horse. But the armour and weapon are troop specific. So a spearmen unit will need to be equiped with leather and a spear. A knights that uses both chainmail and plate is gonna be able to choose, right? But then, this knight can only have a spear as a weapon, right? No sword? :(
Thanks, TH
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Aurordan
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 16:37 |
GM ThunderCat wrote:
To all attack and defence values (The adjustments are additive and applied to base unit stats - before other bonuses). |
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The_Dude
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 16:32 |
lokifeyson wrote:
Bonaparta wrote:
Some items have race specific bonuses like +2% orcs or -120% elves. Does this include speed, carrying capacity or just attack/defence ? |
was wondering same |
Also wondering the same.
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lokifeyson
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 11:12 |
Bonaparta wrote:
Some items have race specific bonuses like +2% orcs or -120% elves. Does this include speed, carrying capacity or just attack/defence ? |
was wondering same
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Ander
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 14:12 |
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I think all percentage bonuses mentioned without specifying the type are for "all attack and defense values".
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Bonaparta
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 09:52 |
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Some items have race specific bonuses like +2% orcs or -120% elves. Does this include speed, carrying capacity or just attack/defence ?
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Garth
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 09:48 |
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Perhaps just stating "-5% atk/def on hills etc..." would at least help?
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GM ThunderCat
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 05:38 |
Brids17 wrote:
GM ThunderCat wrote:
Learner wrote:
Regarding the newly released equipment, I noticed a few unclear stats.
Example: the Heavy Warhorse: +5% attack, -5% move speed, +10% Carry, -5% on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle | To all attack and defence values (The adjustments are additive and applied to base unit stats - before other bonuses). |
So is that +5% increase on everything, then a -5% decrease on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle, meaning they cancel each other out and there is no decrease or increase on said areas?
Or is it a +5% attack on everything that is not hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle and then a -5% on them?
Perhaps these should be reworded to make them more understandable. |
+5% increase on everything, then a -5% decrease on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle, meaning they cancel each other out and there is no decrease or increase on said areas.
These are unit stat adjustments - after which are then applied things like terrain, divisional bonuses etc. So the other bonuses (added together) multiply the equipment bonuses.
Edited by GM ThunderCat - 03 Aug 2012 at 05:45
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