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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:04
Dear Illyriad developers, you really have that bad habit to come out of nowhere and change things without any advice and discussion with the community.

This morning I found those nice messages:

Brewery completely demolished at 01. Grotte di Castro and its queue of builds lost 5 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:47
Book Binder completely demolished at 03. Arlena di Castro and its queue of builds lost 5 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:46
Book Binder completely demolished at 05. Civita di Castro and its queue of builds lost 5 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:46
Forge completely demolished at 06. Piansano di Castro and its queue of builds lost 5 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:46
Book Binder completely demolished at 07. Farnese di Castro and its queue of builds lost 5 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:46
Fletcher completely demolished at 10. Splendente di Castro and its queue of builds lost 5 hours ago

You were well aware of the feature, you never called it a bug (did you?), I am even 99% sure you stated somewhere it was working as intended, and the very very slow build rate applied to those queue was a signal this thing was managed in the code.

Now I didn't had very long queue, and I am only sad to have lost research point in my books queue, but your decision to take away the queue all together, without any advice and without even try to refund the resources used to build those queue, is something making me wonder if you really care about your customers.

You had a lot of possibilities to delete the queue and refund the materials and research points.
You even had the possibility to push strong on market: putting the lost basic res on an hub you would push players to develop a trader, if not else to are able to get back their res.

But you decided to punish the people using that feature.
So I assume you decided it was an illegal exploit.

Well, next time you decide something we do is wrong, PLEASE tell us it, IMMEDIATELY, DON WAIT months to make us a nice surprise in a September morning....

An additional note about the crafting time. You made several changes and now it looks like the crafted stuff are important to be military competitive. So I cannot no more ignore the whole stuff.
You are moving this game to a gathering, time intensive, nerd oriented game.

Thanks, NOT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:30
Originally posted by JimJams JimJams wrote:

An additional note about the crafting time. You made several changes and now it looks like the crafted stuff are important to be military competitive. So I cannot no more ignore the whole stuff.
You are moving this game to a gathering, time intensive, nerd oriented game.

Thanks, NOT.
I still think you can do VERY fine without doing the crafting. Unless you spend a LARGE amount of time of getting the right rare resources you can just make a few items in mass quantities. Those items do not give that big an advantage. To be honest I think you can field a much larger army just building T1 items and selling them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:44
Thanks for the Demolish button! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:52
Originally posted by Faldrin Faldrin wrote:

Originally posted by JimJams JimJams wrote:

An additional note about the crafting time. You made several changes and now it looks like the crafted stuff are important to be military competitive. So I cannot no more ignore the whole stuff.
You are moving this game to a gathering, time intensive, nerd oriented game.

Thanks, NOT.
I still think you can do VERY fine without doing the crafting. Unless you spend a LARGE amount of time of getting the right rare resources you can just make a few items in mass quantities. Those items do not give that big an advantage. To be honest I think you can field a much larger army just building T1 items and selling them.

Even the easier crafting items require a lot (A LOT) of gathering and crafting. The more the crafting thing became quick, the more it is a need. With long gathering and crafting times I could say "well we will not have lots of them around", but with faster crafting and more gathering availability, we WILL have a lot of armies wearing full crafted items, not only commanders or elite squads...

It's not a feeling, I know I am now online checking for cotters, skinners, herbalists and miners, I have to send out multiple times in a day. It's a fact, I now need to connect several times in a day, and each  for a longer time than before, when one or less connection per day was enough.


And again, if devs one week ago had sent out an advice we could have recovered most of the queue building a lvl 1. This way we lost everything. It is too much to ask they that ???
Do they realize many of us demolished those buildings to have a cottage and we could have recovered the queue easily if adviced???

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:52
updates is why i love this dev team. and JimJams, if you take a look at the new resourses needed for weapons most of them cost between 50.000 gold to 750.000 gold each :P i think there is some time before anyone will be fielding armies with new weapons.


ALSO, i cant make the spears i want with resources i can find around me so i will have to do as everyone and trade for them, see they made trade hubs to trade for these things


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:56
At first I thought I'd been sabbed.  WTH is this, out of nowhere??  The rest of the update is fine but this really is not good.  Where was the advance warning?  Why are people paying a penalty for something that is suddenly changed, without any notice or warning.  This wasn't seen as illegal was it?  I never got any notice or hint in a forum that is was.  Nice going...NOT!!


Brewery completely demolished at Butcherblock and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago
01 Sep 2012 02:33:33


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 09:57
Originally posted by Rorgash Rorgash wrote:

updates is why i love this dev team. and JimJams, if you take a look at the new resourses needed for weapons most of them cost between 50.000 gold to 750.000 gold each :P i think there is some time before anyone will be fielding armies with new weapons.

It costs nothing to the gatherer.
And nodes distribution make some people sitting on huge quantity of resources.

I don't hate updates, I do hate bad attitude and surely destroying the queue without advice is stupid, or is a punishment. Both case I hate them.

And if the game change its requirements, especially online time and effort, in a way I dislike, there is nothing you can do to change my mind. I stopped playing WOW because it was too much demanding on my real life. And I loved it.....
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Book Binder completely demolished at 1. Alba Iulia and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Brewery completely demolished at 2. Varadinum and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Book Binder completely demolished at 2. Varadinum and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Brewery completely demolished at 3. Suceava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Fletcher completely demolished at 3. Suceava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Book Binder completely demolished at 3. Suceava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Brewery completely demolished at 4. Pelendava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Spearmaker completely demolished at 4. Pelendava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Book Binder completely demolished at 4. Pelendava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Fletcher completely demolished at 5. Album Castrum and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:22
Brewery completely demolished at 6. Dacidava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:21
Book Binder completely demolished at 6. Dacidava and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago01 Sep 2012 02:35:21
Spearmaker completely demolished at 7. Cibinium and its queue of builds lost 6 hours ago
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 10:04
I still think you can play this game on a casual level and I think the update will give more conflict. More conflict will make you check in more often as well. 

I have no clue what you are talking about in the queue thing. I got a message also but that was from a building not even in the town any more.

If people are sitting on a huge pile of resources the devs need to look into the diplomatic part of the game soon so that we can do something about that beside taking over towns.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 10:10
not sure what happened to you guys, i have queues going in all my towns and i haven't lost anything :/

so maybe a bug and not a intended event?

or is that list you having build a building and started the queue then demolished it to abuse the bug?

im not sure about this but seeing as nothing like this happened to me on either of my account.
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