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Leungarific
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Joined: 28 Jun 2010 Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Points: 114 |
Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 10:15 |
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This entire study is somewhat "TL;DR", but the gist is well-conveyed.
A debate on Massively... Just so we avoid stating the same points again and ... again. And to address your last point, Kilo - E.g. 1, E.g. 2. |
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Joined: 07 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 723 |
Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 09:36 |
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well i probably missed the point.
anyway, shees... the pictures, even the dwarf one are al right in ma opinion.. and what i said, i still think that. even if there are some idiots that are ... well just plain stupid to try to "look cool" whit provocative/ harassing messages... those kind of people are to be ignored... who the heck is so damn messed up to try to seduce a Online game player that can weary well be on the other side of the earth globe? lol |
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Darkwords
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Joined: 23 May 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1005 |
Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 08:08 |
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You have either failed to grasp our point completely, or you are arguing for arguments sake. you claim 'i am open and tolerant to everything', then why are you not tolerant to the idea of people being given choice, or the right to self determination. No-one is saying that this picture should be banned due to its provocative nature (personnaly I do not find it provocative at all), we are just saying that those people who have chosen to play female elf characters should be allowed to choose if their character is pictured in such a way. One of my accounts is a female elf and I would not change this for the original image, but then I am not a girl, so would find it extremely funny and rather pathetic if some desperate idiot tried to chat me up through this game, as I am male, in my 30s and have a big beard, prob not what they would be hoping for. |
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Leungarific
Wordsmith
Joined: 28 Jun 2010 Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Points: 114 |
Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 03:51 |
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Brids17
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Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1483 |
Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 23:27 |
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*shakes head* You're misunderstanding my point. It has nothing to do with how provocative the picture is, it's that they're sexually objectifying women and indirectly telling women that their only worth is as a sexual object. |
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Joined: 07 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 723 |
Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 23:07 |
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its wrong in your opinion. i do not try to force my own opinion on others. i am open and tolerant to everything. what i cant tolerate is intolerance. naked skin, cloths..same thing for me. btw sex is a part of life. deny it holds no propose. even talking about sex or sexual symbolism is al right in ma opinion. and its not like the elven picture is spreading her legs or bowing at 90 degrees ... Edited by Kilotov of DokGthung - 28 Aug 2011 at 23:09 |
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Brids17
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Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1483 |
Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:58 |
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Just because something wrong happens all the time does not make it suddenly ok. Putting half naked women in advertisements is not only a cheap way of making a sale it also indirectly suggests that women are sexual objects and are only valuable or attractive if they're naked. The fact that the GMs seemingly support this sexist and degrading view on women is disappointing to say the least. So it has nothing to do with me being offended by an elf showing skin. I'm offended because they're sexually objectifying women in order to bring in customers. |
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
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Joined: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 924 |
Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:28 |
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+1 I don't see why avatars cannot be left to the players personal prerogative such as one's profile. |
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"ouch...best of luck."
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Rill
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Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:18 |
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Kilo, there are unfortunately some players of online games who think that women are volunteering to be sexually harassed just by playing this sort of game. Having a picture that is sexually provocative just reinforces that delusion.
I am grateful that Illy is for the most part not like that. However, we do have occasional episodes of people being really inappropriate, and I think it's reasonable for women to want to have a choice to opt out of anything that might tend to increase that sort of behavior.
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
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Joined: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 924 |
Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:14 |
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Not at all. I'm wary of excessive political correctness. |
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"ouch...best of luck."
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