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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 17:08
Originally posted by danimdan danimdan wrote:

Folks,

Likely I'm blind...but I'm struggling with the formation of elite units. yes...all of the applicable research is completed.

Thanks!

I just added the right amont of troops (up to 60 cav in my case) in the division and it worked by itself, the upper left stars light up when commander and division are considered elite, and if division equipments are detected an additional shield icon appears.
Btw, in settings with multiple divisions, to make the commander of each division elite you need to add at least 1 troop per division.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 17:34
As long as you add at least 1 troop (and you dont excess the elite division ammount, depending on the type : 60, 100, 150 or 200) , the "golden star" glows, elite division is marked...

Just did my first fight with +animal boost gear.. but numbers dont work out, got exactly as many casualties as if they if my commanders were "naked"

Doing a few more fights just in case but... ( the ammount of the bonus were great enough to be noticeable.. )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 17:47
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Big battle site = newb paradise.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 18:12
Originally posted by Torn Sky Torn Sky wrote:

Originally posted by GM ThunderCat GM ThunderCat wrote:


Originally posted by Torn Sky Torn Sky wrote:

How are riding horses affected by combat, since they arnt rode into battle are they lost as well?
They mill around on the square looking for new owners.


So do they take same % loss as items or if I lose 100 troops will there be 100 riding horses on the squ?
You will loose the 100 riding horses but "small variable portion of these will be recoverable on the map" - not 100
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 18:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 19:27
Did another fight with 1 TS commander (10 heroism, 15 conc. fire) leading 100 TS  vs wild dogs in plains ( bow def 612 for the spear type ones, and 289 for infantry part)  equipped with a hunter's bow and an overpadded leather armor.

The commander herself has a base of 1952 attack, the bow has a -2% penalty on attack and +24% vs animals, the armor is +28% vs animals ... so either +44% bonus, or +100% (if the armor counts too for attack).

Considering the -15% penalty for the spear type dogs defending in plains... the ratio should lead to much lower than the 12 casualties the army had (unless armor bonus is not counted) ... does the armor bonus vs animal only work in defense? If it doesnt, does the bonus vs animal of the weapon only add in attack?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 19:45
How does this affect commanders saved by Defy Death?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 20:25
Originally posted by Yhina Yhina wrote:

Did another fight with 1 TS commander (10 heroism, 15 conc. fire) leading 100 TS  vs wild dogs in plains ( bow def 612 for the spear type ones, and 289 for infantry part)  equipped with a hunter's bow and an overpadded leather armor.

The commander herself has a base of 1952 attack, the bow has a -2% penalty on attack and +24% vs animals, the armor is +28% vs animals ... so either +44% bonus, or +100% (if the armor counts too for attack).

Considering the -15% penalty for the spear type dogs defending in plains... the ratio should lead to much lower than the 12 casualties the army had (unless armor bonus is not counted) ... does the armor bonus vs animal only work in defense? If it doesnt, does the bonus vs animal of the weapon only add in attack?

That looks like without any equipment bonus applied. 1952+3200=5162 attack against 612 bow defense. 

612/5162 = 11.8% loss to 100 units.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 20:50
No, no.. the defending group was made of wild dogs ( 4 types : 2 spear type, and 2 infantry)

The defenders were   (520 ( 612 -15% as spearmen in plains)   and 289 (infantry type ) so 809 total defense.

and you arent considering the 15% attack bonus from divisional bonus for attackers
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 22:26
Originally posted by Yhina Yhina wrote:

No, no.. the defending group was made of wild dogs ( 4 types : 2 spear type, and 2 infantry)

The defenders were   (520 ( 612 -15% as spearmen in plains)   and 289 (infantry type ) so 809 total defense.

and you arent considering the 15% attack bonus from divisional bonus for attackers

The numbers seem file with 809 total defense. You should consider double penalty for terrain too.

Total Attack Force=
1952 ( 1 + 1(100% against animals from equipment) - 0.1(2x terrain penalty) ) + 3200 ( 1 - 0.1*(2x terrain penalty) ) * 1.15(commander divisional bonus)
= 6458

Defense/Attack = 809/6458 = 12.5%








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