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Originally posted by eowan the short eowan the short wrote:

Accelerated healing has 11 levels but the commander starts at level 0 with level 1 accelerated healing meaning it doesn't change it from 205.


Again, I did not know that. Thanks. Are you planning on returning? Willd is back.
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Accelerated healing has 11 levels but the commander starts at level 0 with level 1 accelerated healing meaning it doesn't change it from 205.

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Updates to the game are always good.
 
Can we expect to see more fixes, possibly including an improved text editor?
 


Originally posted by eowan the short eowan the short wrote:

Originally posted by Blankit Blankit wrote:

Ofc it comes from upgradable attributes. Its 206, but yes thanks.

Having a smooth curve like this helps make the decision of level subjective. Which is nice.

206? What did I miss?

9 self bonuses= 90
11 division bonuses=110
Troop specific defence boost=5

=205
 
Accelerated Healing has 11 levels.
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Originally posted by Blankit Blankit wrote:

Ofc it comes from upgradable attributes. Its 206, but yes thanks.

Having a smooth curve like this helps make the decision of level subjective. Which is nice.

206? What did I miss?

9 self bonuses= 90
11 division bonuses=110
Troop specific defence boost=5

=205
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Originally posted by Morose Morose wrote:

Originally posted by OssianII OssianII wrote:

This thread is turning into another bash Hucbold fest from the alliances who deliberately go out of their way to personally harass, humiliate and deride other players at every opportunity. There is no need for us tolerate this anymore. We should keep a record and report it. Where there is long delay in GM's  taking action on these reports then we should band together and force their hand! Some of these practises must stop before this game gets a reputation. 

Ossian, this thread was a discussion of the fixed exploit regarding Defy Death.  Hucbold then derided SIN, blaming them for influencing the GM to fix a known exploit in the game that he admitted to using as part of their strategy.  The simple fact of the matter is that Defy Death was not working properly.  The period of time it was not working properly does not matter, and using the fact that it was not working as intended is an exploit plain as day.  

I do not see how that wouldn't be construed as his fault, and while he may have a point in the length of time in which this went unfixed, he is absolutely wrong in his assertion that it had some malicious intent to punish him behind it.  

TLDR - Defy Death was broken, now it's fixed, some people are mad that they can no longer exploit the fact that it's broken but it was never labeled to do anything more than it does now so the burden of the consequences are on them.
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Ofc it comes from upgradable attributes. Its 206, but yes thanks.

Having a smooth curve like this helps make the decision of level subjective. Which is nice.
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Max commander level is 205

Assuming level 10 defy death, this is what the graph looks like.



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Originally posted by Alcie Alcie wrote:


10/Pi*skill_level*ArcTan[1/(Pi*(1-commander_level/MAX_COMMANDER_LEVEL)^4)]


Did you plot that? And is there really a max comm level?
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I really like Ten Kulch's idea of 5 percent per level. I have no opinion on war-effects, but having commanders almost always die would restrict some variety of tactics and also reduce the amusingly large numbers of attacks during tournaments. 50 percent has a big enough affect to easily notice while avoiding the near-immortal problem.

Or, for those like Wartow who want more math, how about this percentage chance of survival:


10/Pi*skill_level*ArcTan[1/(Pi*(1-commander_level/MAX_COMMANDER_LEVEL)^4)]




p.s. I want an equipped pony-of-immortality




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Originally posted by AdmiralRage AdmiralRage wrote:

And for those who have already leveled up Defy Death, should they have to pay for the prestige to undo it?

Yes.

Game companies don't issue refunds for player actions based on malfunctioning code. In fact, game companies don't issue refunds for actual money spent on purchases like cards, items, and upgrades that later get nerfed because they are unbalanced in actual gameplay. In this specific case, leveling up Defy Death didn't even require the expenditure of money, just some time spent on leveling up the commanders.

If the devs felt really bad about it (which they shouldn't), they could cut the price of commander reassignment from 15 down to 3 prestige for a week, and let everyone rearrange their commanders at -80% off the regular price. I can't say I'd recommend that. If it were me, I would raise Defy Death to 5% per level and call it a day.
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