20FEB18 - Defy Death Update

Imagine that, battlefield conditions have changed, that would never happen in actual combat would it...

This thread is about defy death! 
It is bad taste and mostly unwelcome to usurp it for accusations which have been posted before and repeated too often already.

On the Defy Death subject:
This has been a bug and has been fixed and that is good.

Why should we make another change now to get the previous erroneous result by a new mechanism.

Also for those who argue high level commanders should get additional benefits beyond those which are bestowed on them already by having features added to them with the points available, I'd say:
IMHO the ability to put 10 levels on Defy Death is good enough, it will be used on high level commanders where the benefit of having an up to 10% average saving of time. being able to give to allocate points to defy death already is one of the advantages of having high level commanders. Everyone can choose if this average reduction of 10% ressurection time is useful or not.  I would assume that's going to give an advantage for commanders of level 100 and above.



Edited by Ammianus - 23 Feb 2018 at 18:12

OssianII wrote: This thread is turning into another bash Hucbold fest from the alliances who deliberately go out of their way to personally harass, humiliate and deride other players at every opportunity. There is no need for us tolerate this anymore. We should keep a record and report it. Where there is long delay in GM's  taking action on these reports then we should band together and force their hand! Some of these practises must stop before this game gets a reputation.

AdmiralRage wrote: Steering away from bashing on Hucbold's complaining, I also don't think we should try to "balance" low level commanders and high level commanders. I think high level commanders should have an inherent advantage.

Some people want that balancing because they either think that it will help in emergency (which it should not), or because they think it will help new players (who have no chance of surviving against someone who has played even 6 months with or without this balancing).

Hucbold wrote: Defy death worked in a particular way. It may not have been the way intended but it had worked that way for 8 years. Wars had been won or lost on these mechanics.

Name one. A war that was won or lost on the Defy Death mechanic doesn't exist.

Hucbold wrote: Strategies had been developed on these mechanics. ... In the middle of a war, at the behest of The SINdicate, the devs have altered the dynamics to reduce the effectiveness of elite attacks against big sieging armies without consulting the game at large. Its effect, if not its intent, favours one side. It stinks.

"Strategy" is generous. You discovered an exploitable bug, and instead of reporting it, you chose to systematically abuse that bug across two dozen different accounts. That stinks. There should be no sympathy for anyone who exploited that bug. Do you really think the devs should allow you to continue abusing a code malfunction to create an actual advantage in the game? "Everyone can use it," is not an acceptable argument. They squashed the bug, case closed.

For those wondering, the Defy Death bug wasn't a game-breaking problem until the 5x equipment update. That update poured gasoline on the spark, allowing a 61 troop army with 4 deathless commanders to attack like 1000 troops. As a single shot gambit that's fine. Exploiting the defect to strike over and over without waiting for resurrection time (the intended balancing factor) made the knowledge of how to systematically trigger the bug more valuable than all the troops you were producing in your cities.

At that point, you fix the bug, period.