05MAR19 - Overall Score Changes

GM ThunderCat wrote: @Thirion looking into it; as it shouldn't be working like that.

Thanks, that's what i though.

I think a scoring update is a good idea, it shouldn't have the obvious flaws i mentioned above though.

In my opinion Illyriad is a game with a lot of different ways to play it (PVP,Tournaments,Hunting, Trading, Building,...) thus each category should have the same or at least similar impact to the total score. And yes, some categories require more skill and others more endurance - but its your decisions what you want to do.

Sorry for tripple post, can't edit the previous ones (anymore).

Seems like the new score system is implemented and in my opinion it (sorry) sucks. Magic, Trade, Diplo and Quests are way more impactful then defense, attack, build and research.

https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Player/Rankings/68643 (dittobite, Rank 16)

https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Player/Rankings/334315 (Shagoury, Rank 18)

Dittobite has Tech rank 1, Defense rank 2, Build rank 3 and everything else at least Top100. Meanwhile Shagoury has Magic rank 3 and everything else not even Top1000. They have almost similar overall ranks and overall score - how is that a good score system?

In addition most of the Top20 players now have a category (or a few two) that contribute 50-80% of their overall score - how is that good?

As mentioned above your values seem wrong, at least for the first player - he gets an increase of 500 points for each case instead of 4000 (as he has a 1 multiplier and the total score inceases by 500 points). I am quite sure that other calculations are wrong too, as a player that does not increase his own score should not be able to get an increase of more than 500 points (he would need a category contribution of > 1, or not?)

GM ThunderCat wrote: We consider it a surprising outcome that if you gain score in a category it can cause a player ranked higher than you to gain more score than you for doing nothing.

I am 99% sure this did not happen in the last years. I got way more points while climbing to rank 1 in magic then i got when i was first and others were climbing.

I think your example is not comparable with the reality, as in reality the addition to the total score is negligible compared to the category contribution, thus making increasing your contribution way more important than growing the total score. One is an addition to an already huge number, the other is increasing the multiplier of an already huge number. Or in numbers: Lets start with 1000000 * 0.5. If you add 1 to 1000000 you get an increase of 0.5 points, if you add 0.001 to 0.5 you get an increase of 1000.

I do agree that the current calculation has some issues.

I do not think though that the new formula makes the score calculation better, as categories were players have a lot of points are going to contribute way less to overall score than categories were people have overall less points.