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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cesena Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2019 at 19:44
Not a very good change I'm sorry to say.
Can't check how points are assigned. Some components are more difficult to develope/grow then others. Using prestige for growing towns is easier then growing without and sure easier then developing research. And even in components there are differences. Attacking one NPC (f.i dogs) is easier then attacking another NPC (f.i. Underworld troops) and way easier then attacking troops of another account.

And thereby I also can't check the sum of the totals, which aren't 1/8 of the points given.

In the old way we couldn't check the results also. So nothing changed there.
But a good change would have made it better and more thorough.
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Your change in the old way for the first one has  a calculation fault.
It should be: 10500  14175 change is 675. etc for the following


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Thanks for looking into this issue and making the changes.  Much appreciated.
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Thank you for the clarity.  It looks like you have made a good change.
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Overall Score Changes

We will shortly be applying a change to the way category contributions to overall score is calculated.

Overall score is a dynamic calculation across 8 categories; with the importance of value of a score in an category determined by the player community.

If competition in a category and scores are low, it doesn't take much to get a high contribution from that category to your score. However, if competition and scores are high it requires more effort to get the highest contribution from that category.

However, the formula we have been using to calculate the individual category contributions is very problematic.

We have been using roughly the following formula to convert a category score to the total score contribution:

Category Contribution = % of Max(Cat Score) * Total Score Available

Using the % of the Maximum score in that category has problems; which can be shown using the following examples:

Looking at one category in isolation; to simplify, given starting scores of Cat Score it would produce the overall scores Overall

PosCat ScoreOverall
11000013500
220002700
310001350
4500675

Using the old score calculation, if the 1st ranked player gains 500 in category score it produces the following changes to overall score:

PosCat ChangeCat ScoreOverall ScoreOverall Change
1+5001050014000+4000
220002667+667
310001333+333
4500667+167

If the 2nd ranked player gains 500 in category score it produces the following changes to overall score:

PosCat ChangeCat ScoreOverall ScoreOverall Change
11000014000+4000
2+50025003500+1500
310001400+400
4500700+200

And if the 4th ranked player gains 500 in category score it produces the following changes to overall score:

PosCat ChangeCat ScoreOverall ScoreOverall Change
11000014000+4000
220002800+800
= 310001400+400
= 3+50010001400+900

We consider it a surprising outcome that if you gain score in a category it can cause a player ranked higher than you to gain more score than you for doing nothing.

Category Contribution = % of Total(Cat Score) * Total Score Available

Using the new formula the overall score changes are more expected:

PosCat ChangeCat ScoreOverall ScoreOverall Change
1+5001050010500+500
220002000
310001000
4500500
PosCat ChangeCat ScoreOverall ScoreOverall Change
11000010000
2+50025002500+500
310001000
4500500
PosCat ChangeCat ScoreOverall ScoreOverall Change
11000010000
220002000
= 310001000
= 3+50010001000+500

Each category remains 1/8 of total score.



Edited by GM ThunderCat - 05 Mar 2019 at 17:27
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