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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 18:29
Originally posted by iluvpie3 iluvpie3 wrote:

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you'd have to talk to EAM on that one.I dont know the whole story,how and why he did it is a mystery to all of us,and i couldnt get an answer out of him.Ask casino and see if he knows what happened there.
 
 


I can shed light on that.

These are PM's sent to me from EAM, they are not altered and i can take a screen shot of it to prove it if needed.

This was the first one i got from eam.
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Sent By:King EAM
Received By:Big Casino
Sent:21AUG10 15:32
Subject:war


ok i understand now that is it just a big misunderstanding i think we should have peace but i have to consult with the rest of my alliance
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Sent By:King EAM
Received By:Big Casino
Sent:21AUG10 15:53
Subject:Re: Re: war


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> Sent By: Big Casino
> Received By: King EAM
> Sent: 21AUG10 15:50
> Subject: Re: war
> Message: That would be fine, but your man cost me and my alliance ALOT in damages. So i would rather see him dumped so my guys can get what they are owed or have him pay back what he took. It is up to you. I wont pursue any retaliation on your alliance, since it was him who dragged you into it.
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> Sent By: King EAM
> Received By: Big Casino
> Sent: 21AUG10 15:32
> Subject: war
> Message:
ok i understand now that is it just a big misunderstanding i think we should have peace but i have to consult with the rest of my alliance


I will make him have to him pay you back or be kicked would you like to merge and form a huge alliance where we would share the power

as you see, the war was over in EAM's eyes and he wanted us to merge into this to form a bigger alliance.
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Sent By:King EAM
Received By:Big Casino
Sent:21AUG10 19:21
Subject:Re: Re: peace


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> Sent By: Big Casino
> Received By: King EAM
> Sent: 21AUG10 19:16
> Subject: Re: peace
> Message: so you end the war and now i have Finn doing a full attack....i expect him to be boot for this cause i am going to destroy him now.
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> Sent By: King EAM
> Received By: Big Casino
> Sent: 21AUG10 15:59
> Subject: peace
> Message:
i have a army already on route and i cant stop it in time so i will ship the resources back to the city (howdy)



i told him to stop


as you can see their own leader said to stop and he did not. The attacks kept coming AFTER peace was set.

I have presented much evidence against this un-just war.  There are many many many more PM's i can post if more proof is needed that my 4 man alliance is the victim and un-justly war'd upon.

Finnagas has manipulated EO and their lack of leadership has let it happen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 22:33
Ok, I am sick of all of this it is being blown out of proportion just because we are protecting a member
(finn) from BC and his alliance, we won the war and now you are just complaining that you don't like our terms witch were you and your members join our alliance and be under surveillance from finn so you dont try to revolt against us (maybe pay some war reparations for troops lost, like some spears)
Finn lost 600 troops. I lost 400. I dont know who told you the other things but whoever did was wrong. Now you just badmouth our alliance because you lost a war.
And NO it wasnt for Fun, we were protecting one of our members.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 22:44
so 1000 troops cost 175k gold ?  Only being a merchant and no magic and no troops over 100 is "supervised". Get over your self EAM, you choose to listen to one who has done nothing but bring your own guild down. Good job you peace'd a guild and still attacked them. Oh that is right your "peace" by accidentally hitting the wrong button El oh EL.

You were protecting him from what exactly ? from troops building up in our cities to defend from Finn ? wow i did not know those troops in a city defending were such a threat. YOUR member made all the attacks. end of story, so quit trying to save face, the whole community has seen the evidence, and have found you to be int eh wrong, hell your very own good friend even told you it was wrong.


Rationalize it how you want, but your guild is full of gold beggars and liars, nice guild ya got there bro. I will see you soon. Cause i am in your stack.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 22:53
And it was 3 against 4 only me finn attacked but then sythinor can in at the end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 01:28
Originally posted by king eam king eam wrote:

Ok, I am sick of all of this it is being blown out of proportion just because we are protecting a member
(finn) from BC and his alliance, we won the war and now you are just complaining that you don't like our terms witch were you and your members join our alliance and be under surveillance from finn so you dont try to revolt against us (maybe pay some war reparations for troops lost, like some spears)
Finn lost 600 troops. I lost 400. I dont know who told you the other things but whoever did was wrong. Now you just badmouth our alliance because you lost a war.
And NO it wasnt for Fun, we were protecting one of our members.


Lets put that out a little more for the public now...

Your terms are unacceptable, in my opinion.  No matter the reason.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 02:34
Use your negotiation skill. The initial offer is SUPPOSED to be ridiculous. It's to see if you can haggle a little with some diplomacy. But, you decided it would be better to insult them, refuse to make any kind of deal, and ragequit. Demoing your city so he gets nothing is stupid, because he doesn't have the means to take your city. You could have researched vaults at your cities so he couldn't take as much resources from you, and upgraded your vaults from the protected resources. But no, you decided to continue the war when King EAM's partner, Sheogorath, decided to communicate with you.
I am not amused.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 03:31
Originally posted by KarL Aegis KarL Aegis wrote:

Use your negotiation skill. The initial offer is SUPPOSED to be ridiculous. It's to see if you can haggle a little with some diplomacy. But, you decided it would be better to insult them, refuse to make any kind of deal, and ragequit. Demoing your city so he gets nothing is stupid, because he doesn't have the means to take your city. You could have researched vaults at your cities so he couldn't take as much resources from you, and upgraded your vaults from the protected resources. But no, you decided to continue the war when King EAM's partner, Sheogorath, decided to communicate with you.


there is a siege on my city incoming in 20 hours.from their guy Syn, so please do not tell me they can not do it. As for the first demands its the same ones finn used when we first met, i told him to get bent as i told eam.

Trust me my friend, i haven't quit :) you just don't know where i am atm :) But since he can take the city i did demo it, so he will get nothing. i live and die by my rules, not theirs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 12:31
Hmmmm Big Casino started this thread by claiming to shocked at the level of "politics" involved in illyriad.
 
On reading the thread, it seems to me ,that he is attempting to turn opinion against E.O and King Eam and perhaps involve other alliances in a way that would change a local spat into a full blown war; hoping to gain advantage. He is fairly accomplished at "politics" himself and certanly not the neophyte he led us to believe.
 
 But we should not be allowed to be drawn into this. He fought a war he lost plain and simple.
 
Having said that King Eam's approach to diplomacy seems to be less than errrm consistent. A point that other alliances should note!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 13:26
I don't hear him complaining about losing a war at all.  Seems only EO is saying that.  He's complaining about making peace and then EO breaking the peace.  The war before that peace is irrelevant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 14:13
Nope not complaining, if you read the title it says to watch out for them. For they "peace" and still attack. They have leaders who don't even talk to each other and each does whatever. I could care less over losing a town. it is all but Demo'd right now so he isn't getting squat. Its about giving a heads up on how this alliance deals with others. nothing more, nothing less.
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